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Democrats Look at Plan B: Joe Biden as a One-Term President, with Elizabeth Warren as His VP
National Review ^ | 08/23/2015 | John Fund

Posted on 08/23/2015 5:39:24 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Joe Biden had good reasons to huddle privately with Elizabeth Warren on Saturday at his official residence. The Massachusetts senator may have chosen not to run next year, but her populist rhetoric and agenda dominate the 2016 Democratic contest. Should Biden challenge Hillary Clinton for the nomination, he will need either Warren’s neutrality or her blessing.

Socialist Bernie Sanders isn’t the only candidate pounding the drums of class warfare. Hillary claims “the deck is still stacked in favor of those at the top,” attacks high-level corporate salaries, and says that “we have to go beyond Dodd-Frank” in passing laws to rein in Wall Street firms. All of these themes are straight from Elizabeth Warren’s playbook and bear scant resemblance to the centrism that Bill Clinton embraced as president in the 1990s.

But Warren is stoutly refusing to endorse any candidate, so far preferring to use her leverage to influence the entire Democratic field. In an interview on Friday, she told WBZ in Boston: “I don’t think anyone has been anointed.”

A former law professor who came to prominence as a staunch critic of policies that make it easier for creditors to collect debts, Warren hasn’t forgotten that, as a senator, Hillary Clinton in 2001 backed a bankruptcy bill supported by the credit-card lobby. Biden, also a senator, backed a similar bill in 2005. No real surprise there, since Biden represented Delaware, the home of many credit-card issuers. But it’s still a black mark against him. (Clinton missed the 2005 vote.)

But Warren and other progressives have reasons to give Biden a fresh look as he mulls entering the race. They worry about what Donald Rumsfeld might call the “unknown unknowns” in Hillary’s closet. For months, Hillary’s advisers have assured liberal donors and officeholders there was nothing to the scandal surrounding her e-mails. Now with the FBI and Justice Department investigations launched and clear evidence that Hillary misled people in March about receiving classified e-mails on her private server, even many Democrats are reluctant to now take her at her word.

Paul Kahn, a liberal Yale law professor, summed up the angst of liberals about Hillary right now:

"Voters may turn to Hillary if the Republican candidate is a conservative extremist, but they are unlikely to change their views of her on the basis of some new campaign proposal. Her campaign will always be on the defensive, as we have seen in the latest controversy over the e-mail server. We live in fear of the next revelation about her or Bill, suspecting that there is plenty out there to reveal. Are we going to have to listen to her defending the flow of foreign money to the Foundation or the huge speaking fees coming from interested corporations? No one wants a campaign organized around such issues, but this is what a Hillary campaign will look like."

Biden recognizes he has his own liabilities: He is 73 years old, strays off message frequently, and would inevitably be tied to the shaky legacy of President Obama. But he also knows his assets. Voters view him as far more trustworthy than Hillary, he is free of scandal, and he has a “Regular Joe” persona that connects with ordinary voters — a likability that Hillary Clinton can’t match.

He also knows how to appeal to progressives. Biden has a more centrist reputation than his actual voting record in the Senate would indicate, and he has shown an eagerness to play the occasionally vicious attack dog against Republicans (just watch highlights of his 2012 debate with Paul Ryan, Mitt Romney’s running mate).

Biden has another card to play in soliciting Warren’s support. He would be 74 years old if he were elected president in 2016, an issue he may have a way of addressing. “One thing that I keep hearing about Biden is that if he were to declare and say, because age is such a problem for him if he does, ‘I want to be a one-term president. I want to serve for four years, unite Washington. I’ve dealt with the Republicans in Congress all my public life,’” liberal journalist Carl Bernstein told CNN this month.

A one-term pledge by Biden would also interest Elizabeth Warren. She is 66 years old, and if a Democrat wins in 2016, she will be 74 herself by the time someone else has served two terms in office — and facing her own age issues. But if Biden won, after pledging to serve only one term, Warren would be the front-runner for the Democratic nomination in 2020. If Biden made her his vice-presidential choice, as Yale’s Professor Kahn and others have suggested, she might be a virtual lock for the Democratic nomination.

Hillary Clinton is still the front-runner for the 2016 Democratic nomination, but she is also damaged goods as long as the e-mail scandal lingers. “It’s almost like a vampire,” California governor Jerry Brown said on Meet the Press today. “She’s going to have to find a stake and put it right through the heart of these e-mails.”

But Hillary may not be able to. This week’s New Yorker magazine reported:

"If Clinton and her aides swapped classified information over an unsecured e-mail system, they could be questioned about mishandling state secrets. That misdemeanor has ensnared several high office-holders in the recent past. In 2001, John Deutsch, President Clinton’s second CIA director, admitted to a single count of mishandling classified material because he kept top-secret files at home on a Macintosh connected to the open Internet. (Bill Clinton pardoned him.) In 2005, Samuel Berger, a former Clinton-administration national-security adviser, pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor, because, after leaving office — for reasons that remain unclear — he removed classified documents from the National Archives and destroyed them. Earlier this year, General David Petraeus pleaded to a misdemeanor after allowing his mistress and biographer to read sensitive notebooks that he kept when he ran the CIA."

You can bet that both Vice President Biden and Senator Warren are well aware of that history, which makes their decision to meet quickly and quietly this weekend all the more intriguing.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016; 2016demprimary; 2016veep; biden2016; democrats; joebiden; johnfund; warren
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To: onyx

That’s hilarious!

Jim Dandy to the rescue.
Joe Biden to the rescue.
Go Jim Dandy...go Joe Biden.


41 posted on 08/23/2015 7:22:18 PM PDT by berdie
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To: SeekAndFind

Sadly, this is more acceptable to some of Free Republic’s resident idiots (and you know who you are) than a Trump presidency!

Have you noticed that those with Trump Derangement Syndrome have more venom for Trump than Obama? They produce more threads and posts spewing hatred for man who’s never held office, than for the current Marxist destroying our nation!

These Trump haters are as much of a problem as the GOPe!


42 posted on 08/23/2015 7:24:40 PM PDT by Artcore
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To: SeekAndFind
A Plagiarist and a fake Indian. SMELL THE DESPERATION!
43 posted on 08/23/2015 7:30:46 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< | :)~)
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To: SeekAndFind

Plugs Biden & the Mooch/2016. She could actually be a somewhat “youthful” face for the Dems.

Who’s gonna vote against the 1st black female VP?

Biden resigns about 3 months later, Mooch steps up for 8.


44 posted on 08/23/2015 7:32:35 PM PDT by castlebrew (Gun Control means hitting where you're aiming!))
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To: exit82

My big concern as always.....fraud.


45 posted on 08/23/2015 7:36:20 PM PDT by Churchillspirit (9/11/2001 and 9/11/2012: NEVER FORGET.)
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To: Huskrrrr

Send in the puppets.


46 posted on 08/23/2015 7:42:21 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: berdie

Hi berdie!
I loved that song!


47 posted on 08/23/2015 7:47:33 PM PDT by onyx (PLEASE Support FR - GO MONTHLY - Join CLUB 300 - God bless FR's Donors!)
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To: Artcore
These Trump haters are as much of a problem as the GOPe!

Very funny. Not too long ago Trump was a Democrat. Now he's a conservative champion? I've got a bridge to sell you...

48 posted on 08/23/2015 7:48:49 PM PDT by randita (...Our First Lady is a congenital liar - William Safire, 1996)
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To: faithhopecharity

49 posted on 08/23/2015 8:17:08 PM PDT by mkjessup (Iran has an ayatollah for it's 'supreme leader', America has an ASSAHOLLAH !!!)
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To: randita
Not too long ago Trump was a Democrat. Now he's a conservative champion? I've got a bridge to sell you

Ronald Reagan started off as a liberal Democrat supporting the New Deal and FDR. How did that turn out for America?

Pretty damn good.
50 posted on 08/23/2015 8:19:10 PM PDT by mkjessup (Iran has an ayatollah for it's 'supreme leader', America has an ASSAHOLLAH !!!)
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To: mkjessup

Trump is not Reagan.


51 posted on 08/23/2015 8:21:42 PM PDT by berdie
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To: Dallas59

Lol!


52 posted on 08/23/2015 8:24:56 PM PDT by uncitizen (i hate gutless people, too.)
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To: randita

Very funny. Not too long ago Trump was a Democrat. Now he’s a conservative champion? I’ve got a bridge to sell you...
________________________________________

And now he’s taking it to the Democrats, the Media, and the GOPe. He has everybody talking about illegal immigrants, anchor babies, and getting them both out of the country. But to morons like you, he’s the problem.

In your world, nobody can change, nobody’s allowed second chances. Donald Trump has created businesses, helped grow the economy, and created countless jobs for Americans! Now he’s the only guy (besides Cruz) taking on the Democrats, the Media, and the GOPe, and idiots like you can only find fault with him.

Like I said, it’s people like you who are part of the problem. How does it feel to be actively helping the GOPe and the Media?


53 posted on 08/23/2015 8:27:13 PM PDT by Artcore
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To: onyx

I’m just glad you knew it was a song! ;)


54 posted on 08/23/2015 8:34:42 PM PDT by berdie
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To: mkjessup
How did Reagan turn out for America?

Do you mean GHWB, James A. Baker, III, Sandra Day O'Connor, Anthony Kennedy, MLK Day ...?

55 posted on 08/23/2015 8:40:31 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Joe Biden as President


56 posted on 08/23/2015 8:45:29 PM PDT by Stand Watch Listen (When the going gets tough--the Low Information President Obie from Nairobi goes golfing/fundraising)
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To: SeekAndFind

Does Lieawatha work at a 7-11?


57 posted on 08/23/2015 8:52:01 PM PDT by willk (everyone)
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To: blueunicorn6
Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, Paleface Lizzy Warren, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Barbara Boxer, Diane Feinstein, Charles Schumer...
The fresh, youthful faces of the Democrat Party.


58 posted on 08/23/2015 9:26:32 PM PDT by Stand Watch Listen (When the going gets tough--the Low Information President Obie from Nairobi goes golfing/fundraising)
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To: nascarnation
but remember when a lot of folks thought that a guy named Baraq Hussein from Kenya had zilch chance of becoming POTUS?

And then wondered how he could possibly be re-elected with $4 gas, surging food prices, trillion dollar deficits, 8% unemployment (13% actual), Benghazi, and Obamacare?

And the GOPe set forth an enormous brain fart and rescued the Dem nominee with...

2008 John McCain
2112 Mitt Romney

59 posted on 08/23/2015 9:34:49 PM PDT by Stand Watch Listen (When the going gets tough--the Low Information President Obie from Nairobi goes golfing/fundraising)
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To: Theodore R.
How did Reagan turn out for America?
Do you mean GHWB, James A. Baker, III, Sandra Day O'Connor, Anthony Kennedy, MLK Day ...?


No, I mean winning the Cold War and freeing millions of people from captivity behind the Iron Curtain and giving them the opportunity to breathe free air, engineering the fall of the Soviet Union through unquestioned military superiority, I mean the largest peacetime expansion of the U.S. economy in history, how's that for starters?

As Reagan himself once said, "we'll take the blame for the things we may have done wrong, as long as we get the credit for all the things that we did right".

Back to you Sparky.
60 posted on 08/23/2015 9:53:13 PM PDT by mkjessup (Iran has an ayatollah for it's 'supreme leader', America has an ASSAHOLLAH !!!)
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