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Scientists: “Aborted fetal tissue essential for research” [Mark 6 - Herodian Choice]
Children of God for Life ^ | 8/15/2015 | Staff

Posted on 08/27/2015 12:09:47 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski

(Largo, FL) With the exposure of Planned Parenthood’s activities in procuring aborted babies for scientists, the media is buying into the lie that this is “life-saving” research. In a recent article picked up by the AP and published in US News, the hysterics were evidenced by the headlines “Amid uproar over anti-abortion videos scientists say fetal tissue essential for research”. The article starts out sounding like talking points for Planned Parenthood’s Cecile Richards by quoting from Stanford University spokesperson Lisa Lapin: “If researchers are unable to work with fetal tissue, there is a huge list of diseases for which researchers would move much more slowly, rather than quickly, to find their cause and how they can be cured.”

Not only has there never been a cure for any disease whatsoever using aborted fetal material, the very next sentence demonstrates what’s really behind their motives. From 2011 through 2014 alone, 97 research institutions – mostly universities and hospitals – received a total of $280 million in federal grants for fetal tissue research from the National Institutes of Health. Cha-ching! Looks like government defunding of Planned Parenthood is only the tip of the iceberg isn’t it? Next the article notes that vaccines for hepatitis A, German measles, chickenpox and rabies were developed using cell lines grown from tissue from elective abortions.

“What they fail to admit is that with the exception of chickenpox there are moral alternatives for every one of those vaccines using animal cell lines,” stated Debi Vinnedge, Children of God for Life’s Executive Director. “There are 47 vaccines licensed in the US, 8 of which use aborted fetal cell lines yet only 3 of them have no moral option...

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortion; corporate; flavorings; infanticide
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To: humblegunner

You have provided all the information I need.


41 posted on 08/27/2015 2:23:30 PM PDT by henkster (Ms. Clinton, are you a criminal or just really stupid?)
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To: henkster
You have provided all the information I need.

I'm so pleased.

Enjoy your Polio.

42 posted on 08/27/2015 2:28:21 PM PDT by humblegunner (NOW with even more AWESOMENESS)
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To: humblegunner

Yes, let all our children get the holy Polio of our forefathers,
and also the holy diptheria and measles and mumps and smallpox
and rubella and even tetanus too.. let all our unvaccinated kids get
all of those things.. because disease is better! Better and pure!
Yay disease and BOO to cures for it.
Right?


43 posted on 08/27/2015 3:05:44 PM PDT by RoadGumby (This is not where I belong, Take this world and give me Jesus.)
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To: RoadGumby

By gosh, you have mastered copy and paste!


44 posted on 08/27/2015 3:08:58 PM PDT by humblegunner (NOW with even more AWESOMENESS)
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To: henkster

Great post! Profoundly historic and insightful.


45 posted on 08/27/2015 3:40:40 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

46 posted on 08/27/2015 5:00:01 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

That is spooky. I want to see the poll of all doctors and all medical researchers on this question...not just liberal activists pretending to speak for all medical researchers.

Ben Carson, a neurosurgeon, probably smarter than all the liberals put together in this Nation, would not agree.


47 posted on 08/27/2015 5:34:29 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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Bookmark


48 posted on 08/27/2015 6:04:42 PM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Slyfox
...We need a come-to-Jesus moment.

AMEN!

I've been wondering if the Lord is exposing this horrible infanticide to test the soul of this nation. Most of what I read and see are excuses for this barbarism for the sake of 'science'(with the exception of FR). God's justice will not remain silent for those who choose to do evil and reject repentance.

49 posted on 08/27/2015 7:26:53 PM PDT by 444Flyer (How long O LORD?)
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To: 444Flyer

The time will come where all the people of the earth will know God and all the evil they have done to him. Then we will be truly free.


50 posted on 08/27/2015 9:19:18 PM PDT by Slyfox (If I'm ever accused of being a Christian, I'd like there to be enough evidence to convict me)
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To: humblegunner

You asked, you received. No sarc tag available, just your words. Nothing else really needed, as you supplied it all.


51 posted on 08/28/2015 3:38:06 AM PDT by RoadGumby (This is not where I belong, Take this world and give me Jesus.)
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To: RoadGumby
You asked, you received.

If you say so.

Vaccines have been around for a long time, I think it's stupid to condemn them all in a lump sum because of some present day rumors or supposition.

52 posted on 08/28/2015 4:41:40 AM PDT by humblegunner (NOW with even more AWESOMENESS)
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To: RoadGumby

I do say so, since you have not denied it.

This whole abortion/PP thing is the tip of the iceberg.

The usual practice of ‘justification’ of evil is now in progress.


53 posted on 08/28/2015 8:06:31 AM PDT by RoadGumby (This is not where I belong, Take this world and give me Jesus.)
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To: RoadGumby
Posting to yourself is not the best way to reply to someone if you wish them to see it.

since you have not denied it.

Denied WHAT?

54 posted on 08/28/2015 10:12:30 AM PDT by humblegunner (NOW with even more AWESOMENESS)
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To: humblegunner

humblegunner,

Firstly, you posted a series of words that was mocking to the idea that killing unborn of research and production of some vaccines or other medicines/products is wrong/evil. Mocking by giving the impression that we’ll just do without medications and embrace disease without using destroyed unborn in research.

Secondly, as offensive as the above idea is, one would hope that it was sarcastic in nature. No sarc tag was given, nor was any indication given by you that sarcasm was intended. This leads one to believe you were speaking as you truly feel.

That led to my first post to you, leading to now.

Mea culpa on the self-post. I posted from the Pings page, not considering I would be posting to myself. Lessons learned from abnormal events.

The vast majority of all I have seen or read from you, including all your blog-police items, I agree with. Your initial post on this thread was morally indefensible. I still hope there was a sarc or satire element to what you had to say. Lacking that, you are on amoral shifting sand. There is NO defensible position for abortion, much less carving up the remains and selling it for research.


55 posted on 08/28/2015 12:38:06 PM PDT by RoadGumby (This is not where I belong, Take this world and give me Jesus.)
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To: RoadGumby

Lotsa words, congratulations.

I never said a word or made any implication about abortion justification.

I am in favor of vaccinations. Read carefully.

Vaccinations. Vaccines. In favor of.

You choose to warp this somehow into support for abortion.
If that makes you happy then go ahead on.. but you’re wrong.

In the late 1800’s folks were coming up with vaccinations
for dread diseases. Those are bad, too.. all of a sudden?

Enjoy your Polio.


56 posted on 08/28/2015 1:13:46 PM PDT by humblegunner (NOW with even more AWESOMENESS)
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To: humblegunner

And not once did I say or imply I was against vaccinations.

But, the murder of unborn for ‘research’ and justifying that evil by saying that it is necessary to develop and produce vaccines.

By your initial reply, you did indeed support the idea that it is justifiable to kill the unborn to develop a vaccine for you or yours.

Read my words carefully humblegunner, I too am in favor of vaccines. Also medicines and medical treatments. As long as NO children were killed to produce it. See the difference?

While vaccines were initially developed without aborted fetal tissue, nowadays, it seems the big business side of abortion is using these tissues for all kinds of research. I will not knowingly have any part of it. If that meant a disease I had could not be cured, then so be it, my time here is limited anyway.

Your initial reply buys into their justification - If we don’t have these dead baby parts we can’t make these medicines. And that is evil and incorrect. But your reply says that unless they are allowed to do that - enjoy your polio.

You are wrong humblegunner.


57 posted on 08/28/2015 1:40:51 PM PDT by RoadGumby (This is not where I belong, Take this world and give me Jesus.)
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To: RoadGumby
You are wrong humblegunner.

You chose to see something a certain way.

You go ahead on with that, being wrong or however you wish to call it.

I think vaccinations are a net boon to Mankind. Thankful for it.

If folks want to add vaccinations into the abortion argument,
then I figure they need to consider the many decades of vaccine
work that was done before we got reports about planned parenthood
and a bunch of bloggers imagining uses for dead baby parts.

Be an anti-vaxxer all you want, but blaming an entire scientific
discipline for some crap that happened last year.. is stupid.

58 posted on 08/28/2015 1:50:49 PM PDT by humblegunner (NOW with even more AWESOMENESS)
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To: humblegunner

Failed at reading comprehension have you? Perhaps you should practice reading some of the blogs you post about.

I’ll type slowly so you can perhaps follow what I have said.

Vaccinations be good. That means NOT bad. See how easy that was? Lets try again.

Abortion is Bad. Anything that comes with using aborted children is Bad. So far so good?

ANY product, medical or otherwise, developed using killed children is beyond Bad. It be evil.

Are you still with me?


59 posted on 08/28/2015 1:58:28 PM PDT by RoadGumby (This is not where I belong, Take this world and give me Jesus.)
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To: RoadGumby
Yeah.

The link between abortion and all the vaccines over the last hundred years is missing.

There is no link.

Assuming that someone is pro-abortion because they are pro-vaccine is stupid.
And it was YOU who made that link.

So quit being so stupid and sit down.

60 posted on 08/28/2015 2:04:08 PM PDT by humblegunner (NOW with even more AWESOMENESS)
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