No...not the...Russians!
Posted on 10/03/2015 1:28:14 PM PDT by Kaslin
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Reunited 'cause we understood
We both are so excited 'cause we're reunited, hey, hey
The South seceded over slavery (and tariff policy).
The North caused a war over states rights: to deny states the right to secede.
Secession was about slavery.
The war was about states rights.
“The Founders obviously regarded the right of states to secede from England as valid.”
The Founders also provided a means by which the state governments could lawfully secede using the same authority and procedures that were used to accede to the United States. The Confederate conspirators refused to respect the sovereignty of the citizens, because they knew the citizens would not approve such a secession.
No, it was all about the tariffs. The north could not exist without the tariffs raised through trade in the South. (It is a mater of record that the any state had the right to leave - the constitution could not have been approved without that assurance.) So the North had to “insist” that the South not be permitted to leave.
And by the way, slavery would never been approved in the beginning but for the deciding vote of Massachusetts. Look it up.
Facts can be disturbing.
No...not the...Russians!
I am familiar with the information in your post, it’s correct.
Being as so many blacks were slave owners, how would we have ever ended slavery without the Civil War?
(I know it was economically unsustainable.)
Just thought I’d ask.
Thanks for that link, outstanding piece.
Damn the torpedoes.
Undeniable historical fact.
We want it to have been about States’ Rights for many reasons, but wishing does not make it so.
That’s a distinction without a difference, since the South initiated hostilities.
“If you say no, then the 22 Union states were not fighting over slavery, therefore the war was not being fought over slavery.”
The North was fighting because they didn’t want to let the Southern states go.
Individual men on both sides were fighting for many reasons all their own.
But the Southern states were undeniably fighting for slavery. They said so, loud and clear.
No easy answers for that - are there?
To some degree industrialization itself and the advent of mechanical agricultural machinery would have changed the economic dynamic in a very big way.
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More of the same old tired sh++ about the saintly north and the wicked, rayyyyycist south. This is nothing new.
Economically ignorant Northern leaders then passed the astronomical Morrill Tariff that threatened to destroy the Northern shipping industry by rerouting trade away from the high-tariff North and into the low-tariff South. The Morrill Tariff was like pumping gasoline into an already raging fire.
Abraham Lincoln was the first sectional president in American history. He was president of the North, and the North was clamoring for war. LINCOLN SAW AN OPPORTUNITY TO START THE WAR WITHOUT APPEARING TO BE THE AGGRESSOR, SO HE TOOK IT- THUS, HE STARTED A WAR THAT KILLED 800,000 AND WOUNDED A MILLION.
The idea that the good North was so outraged over slavery that they marched armies into the South to free the slaves is an absurdity of biblical proportions The the economic annihilation of the North was what drove Lincoln to start the war.
The invasion of the Southern States by Lincoln and his party (a minority of the American people) was due to an agenda of economic domination and not to some benevolent concern for slaves.
Then it fits right in with most of the rest of the stuff in your post.
, the Civil War was not about states’ rights......stopped read there.
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What happened yesterday doesn’t matter what happens tomorrow is going to make a lot of people wake up. The oppressive federal government needs to be quarantined and stamped out faster than the Ebola virus. Keep making it about something that occurred five generations ago keep making it about slavery keep making it about states rights. wake up everyone. We are the slaves now. Time to stand on our feet or our knees. Everyone will chose. Some will chose consciously.
***Sorry, but the South seceded because of slavery.***
But not all the slave states seceded. Delaware, Maryland, Kentucky, Missourin Virginia broke apart, the western part stayed in the Union but still a slave state stayed in the Union. True, three were compelled to stay by Union troops there.
Slavery was still legal in these states till eight months after the end of the Civil War in 1865.
Maryland banned slavery in 1864.
Slavery would have ended with the invention of the Internal Combustion engine. Cheaper to park a tractor all winter while slaves still have to be fed, clothed and sheltered.
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