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1 posted on 10/04/2015 11:31:04 AM PDT by Mariner
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In a way, he is right. But what we did was right in principle but we walked away from a job unfinished. Thanks to Obama. And he owns it.


2 posted on 10/04/2015 11:36:54 AM PDT by EagleUSA (Liberalism removes the significance of everything.)
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Facts:

1) Except in the very odd/exceptional election year of 1964, the Dems haven’t cracked 50% of the whites in a Presidential election since 1932.

2) Once the ‘64 election was over, the Dems understood that they would never win another Presidential election again unless the Republicans REALLY screwed up...or unless they changed the electorate in a dramatic way.

3) The Dems, courtesy of Bobby Kennedy who wrote the law, and Teddy Kennedy who pushed it in the Senate, passed the 1965 Immigration Act. That law dramatically reduced immigration from our then-traditional large sources of immigrants - England, Ireland, Holland, Germany, etc. - and replaced them with vast numbers of Turd Worlders...whom everyone knows vote around 80% for Dems, and will continue to do so for the rest of their lives, as new immigrants have traditionally done.

4) As a result of the ‘65 Act, and due to the Dem’s outright lying in ‘86 regarding an effective (or any) fence, there are now probably 30 - 40 million illegals in this nation. Note that the (probably low-ball) figure in 2005 was 11 million...we have 2-3 million come in every year, so simple math says that the number is actually somewhere between 31 and 41 million). If any substantial portion of these people ever become citizens, then the Dems will have accomplished a complete shift of the electorate, and will be virtually invincible on the national level. Every state will become like California, both politically and economically - which is to say, overwhelming Dem and broke. But at least if you don’t like California now, you can leave for a better place without much trouble - where are you going to go if EVERY state is like that?

5) Every Republican, and every Conservative voter MUST UNDERSTAND that if such a state of affairs comes to be, NO OTHER ISSUE WILL MATTER AT ALL, because we will ALWAYS AND FOREVER lose on those issues. Immigration is THE issue of this election, and this election is as critical as the 1860 election was - and for the same reason, because it will determine whether this nation continues on as it has existed in the past, or becomes a new and unrecognizable entity that simply occupies the same geographic territory.

Please wake up, and help others to do so by sending them this post (or recommending “Adios America” to them). It really is THAT important.


3 posted on 10/04/2015 11:37:23 AM PDT by Ultima
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I agree with Khadafi. I disagree with Saddam. People have forgotten who it was before.

The mistake was arming ISIS, and removing the residual force from Iraq too soon. The mistake was trying to use Al Qaeda jihadists to go after our enemies without sufficient controls over their entirely predictable behavior.


4 posted on 10/04/2015 11:37:37 AM PDT by marron
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Well, I believe that is true. Muslims need to be controlled one way or another.


5 posted on 10/04/2015 11:37:50 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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BINGO!!!

Personally, I miss Qaddafi, his wild and fabulous costumes and those hot ass body guards...


7 posted on 10/04/2015 11:39:01 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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Trump is right.

Taking out Saddam was a very bad mistake.

Obama/Clinton took advantage of that mistake and took out Kadaffi.

Thank God the Egyptians turned against the Muslim brotherhood/Obama/Clinton and came back around.

Obama/Clinton’s Arab Spring’s offspring are now invading Europe.


8 posted on 10/04/2015 11:39:31 AM PDT by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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He is right. All those lives lost, all that money spent, and things would have been better for everyone - especially the people of the Middle East - if none of it had happened.


11 posted on 10/04/2015 11:39:40 AM PDT by madprof98
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Probably true. We’ll never know
If you go by history, the regions where Islam is prevalent are more stable under dictatorships or autocratic/theocratic control.


12 posted on 10/04/2015 11:40:25 AM PDT by Lorianne
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Probably true. It’s sure a mess now.


13 posted on 10/04/2015 11:40:56 AM PDT by McGruff (Trump-Cruz 2016. Make America Great Again.)
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More stable, but not necessarily better.


17 posted on 10/04/2015 11:43:44 AM PDT by discostu (dream big and dance a lot)
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Was Saddam a bad dude who exported terror? YES. But he was a counter balance to the world’s number one exporter of terror known as Iran.


18 posted on 10/04/2015 11:44:16 AM PDT by miliantnutcase
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Trump keeps surprising by telling the absolute truth.

Earlier this week he cited Operation Wetback to deport illegal aliens, then he invoked Charles Bronson’s vigilante to rebut calls for gun control in the wake of the Oregon shooting, now he dares to say how the savages in the Middle East needed to be controlled.


20 posted on 10/04/2015 11:45:18 AM PDT by MUDDOG
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He’s right.


23 posted on 10/04/2015 11:48:46 AM PDT by dfwgator
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What ignorance. Saddam and Quadaffi were just as vicious as iran.

That part of the world has always been unstable more so since the dominance of islam.

24 posted on 10/04/2015 11:49:04 AM PDT by RginTN
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The stated reason Bush #1 refused to depose Hussein during the Gulf War, when it would have been so easy, was to keep from de-stabilizing the region.


31 posted on 10/04/2015 11:54:18 AM PDT by odawg
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Stable? As stable as the path of a nuke tipped ICBM?


38 posted on 10/04/2015 11:59:14 AM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall no)
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In hindsight and knowing what Obama has done he is absolutely right. From today’s stand point we would have been better off leaving things alone.


41 posted on 10/04/2015 12:00:35 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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He forgot to mention Carter giving Iran to the muslim monsters, sowing the seeds for the world’s distruction.


42 posted on 10/04/2015 12:00:37 PM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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In retrospect Trump nailed it, we deposed the Shah (under Carter) Hussein (under Bush) Kadafi and Mubarek (under Obama) these guys were all b@$stards, but say what you will they kept a lid on their wackos.


45 posted on 10/04/2015 12:02:32 PM PDT by kenmcg
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He is absolutely right.
We should have supported Daffy, Mubrak and Assad. Since Saddam was already gone, we should have replaced him with a ‘bastard’ loyal to us. We should have installed a ‘bastard’ to rule Trashcanistan for us, too.


52 posted on 10/04/2015 12:11:43 PM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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