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From Trudeau To Trudeau: Canadian Politics Analyzed
10/20/2015 | Self

Posted on 10/20/2015 4:52:11 AM PDT by Nextrush

The Conservative Party of Canada had known for some time it was in trouble. Some polls taken in the last year had shown the Liberals at 43 percent support (They won with just under 40 percent last night).

The CPC launched a major media campaign during the summer right before the election call at the beginning of August.

The message carried by the women who appeared in the commercials was that Justin Trudeau 'just wasn't ready for the job'. Women were being used because the youthful looking Trudeau appealed to women and it was hoped that women's voices would help sink him.

Perhaps in retrospect the media campaign was just a bit too cutesy and more a slap on the wrist than a smackdown.

It looked like the ads were working with the Liberal lead evaporated and the Conservatives and NDP running ahead of them.

But in the end the Liberals and Trudeau were able to rise up to victory in midst of some pretty tough economic conditions punctuated by lower oil prices that hurt Canada's currency making Canadians vacations in the United States more expensive, among other things.

Consider this. Many in this forum see the United States economy as bad and blame Barack Obama and Democrats for it. Is it plausible for Canadians to see their economy as bad and blame Stephen Harper and the Conservatives for that?

Economic conditions always seem to be the big driver of voting patterns in the end.

Trudeau hit Harper on all the issues from the deficit to the controversy over a Muslim woman being allowed to take her Canadian citizenship wearing the niqab (opposed by Harper). NDP leader Tom Mulcair's vocal views on the issue to keep his Muslim supporters on his side backfired in Quebec, with the Quebecois turning away to elect more members of the separatist Bloc Quebecois and the Muslims there moving towards Trudeau and the Liberals.

The NDP was crushed in other parts of Canada much like the British Liberal Party was crushed in the UK in their general election last May with emotional anti-Harper arguments being used to draw voters to the Liberals of Canada like the emotional anti-Scottish Nationalist arguments sucked voters towards the UK Tories.

45 years ago at this time Pierre Trudeau had thrown many of his old leftist friends from Quebec into jail. Trudeau had invoked the War Measures Act to combat the separatist kidnapping and bombing campaign of the "Quebec Liberation Front" (FLQ).

One wonders what his son might do with the controversial C-51 Law enacted by the Harper government to combat 'extremism'. Many conservative Canadians wonder if they have targets painted around them for their words which fall much short of any terrorist acts of the far past and the more recent past like those in Quebec and Ottawa last fall.

Prime Minister Trudeau believed in a strong and unified Canada with a stronger central government than originally envisioned by its founders with the confederation of provinces agreed to in 1867.

To that end Pierre Trudeau went all out to bring about 'constitutional reform' to reduce provincial power and increase federal power.

His predecessor in the 1960's, Liberal PM Lester Pearson brought about other significant changes like the new maple leaf flag to replace the old flag that included a Union Jack and "Oh Canada" to replace "God Save the Queen" as the national anthem.

Pierre Trudeau opened up diplomatic relations with Cuba and pushed a "Canadian nationalism" that included regulating radio and television to include more "Canadian content".

Where the son, Justin Trudeau, will take Canada remains to be seen. In the debates, Trudeau committed to taking in 25-thousand migrants from the wave washing over Europe right now. Harper was willing to take 20-thousand. Mulcair of the NDP 46-thousand.

Trudeau no doubt will go green but the "Conservative" Harper already paved the way for him by agreeing to reduce carbon emissions by 2030 in accordance with other nations. In the last year the man recognized as Stephen Harper's 'mentor', Reform Party founder and former Opposition Leader Preston Manning, has been pushing a carbon tax for Canada or 'carbon pricing' as he calls it.

One additional thought. Stephen Harper was criticized for not dealing with the debt-deficit problem in Canada. Justin Trudeau is committed to spending more money on 'infrastructure' (payback to crony capitalists who supported the Liberals) in his first three years.

For those of you who remember the "Libranos" tag put on the Liberal Party in the Chretien years over all that 'infrastucture' payback, I guess you could say the Libranos just got a new boss, "Pretty Boy" Trudeau.

It seems no matter who voters in Western nations elect, parties of the "Right" or "Left", they all just want to keep on spending money wildly.

The nations of the Western world keep running up their tabs to the financial services industry like credit card customers do.

Deeper in the hole they go forced to make bigger loan service payments ("credit card payments") to the bankers, meaning the Uniparties of the Western nations have to raise taxes and cut services causing people on both Left and Right to be angry at the very least.

In some cases they realize they were conned into supporting politicians who made emotional arguments to them about the major differences between their party and the other one.

The governments of the Western nations (Canada included) are steadily being collapsed financially. When does the house of cards fall down?

How far will Justin Trudeau move Canada 'towards the falls'?


TOPICS: Canada; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: belongsinchat; canada; globalwarming; immigration; justintrudeau; stephenharper; trudeau; vanity
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1 posted on 10/20/2015 4:52:11 AM PDT by Nextrush
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To: Nextrush

How much cash did Soros put into this one?


2 posted on 10/20/2015 4:55:47 AM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11 HillaryForPrison2016)
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To: Nextrush

It won’t be long until Trudeau and his lefty cohorts screw things up north.


3 posted on 10/20/2015 4:58:19 AM PDT by dowcaet
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To: Nextrush

It’s a sad day. Harper made Canada look sane compared to the US. He also called evil by its name.


4 posted on 10/20/2015 4:59:57 AM PDT by winner3000
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To: ColdOne

If Trudeau is promising 75 billion in ‘infrastructure’ over three years there were probably millions put down by Canadian interests who will get the kickbacks many fold with contracts to build the ‘infrastructure’.


5 posted on 10/20/2015 5:00:59 AM PDT by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS, REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: Nextrush

Why oh why do people keep flirting with destructive liberalism? Dennis Prager is correct-—human history bends toward stupidity over the ages of time.


6 posted on 10/20/2015 5:03:23 AM PDT by tflabo (Psalm 1)
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To: winner3000

Canadians didn’t like Fiscal Sanity?


7 posted on 10/20/2015 5:04:23 AM PDT by Paladin2 (my non-desktop devices are no longer allowed to try to fix speling and punctuation, nor my gran-mah.)
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To: Nextrush

A very excellent analysis, it’s bang on.

If one was looking for a bit of humor in all this, the leader of the Bloc in Quebec (Gilles Duceppe) saw his party gain 10 seats, but he lost his own seat and won’t be joining them, lol


8 posted on 10/20/2015 5:06:59 AM PDT by mkjessup (Jeb is to conservatism what e.coli is to an all-you-can-eat buffet. You get sick and PUKE!)
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To: dowcaet

With the Canadian dollar trading at near par, wait for it to go back to $1.46CND to one USD under Trudeau. The Liberals will turn Canada back into a welfare state like it was.


9 posted on 10/20/2015 5:07:29 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: Paladin2

Stephen Harper did not deal with the debt problem in his country just as sure as John Boehner and Paul Ryan haven’t in this country.

More money has been borrowed in both countries in the years all of the above have held positions of power.


10 posted on 10/20/2015 5:12:40 AM PDT by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS, REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: Nextrush

So the socialists take over in Canada and will move so far left that Obama will have to race to catch up. Trudeau and Obama can have a big love fest and slide North America into the history books.


11 posted on 10/20/2015 5:13:43 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Truth29
Cameron was to good for the blue Collar workers in Canada

That is where Trump is strong

12 posted on 10/20/2015 5:16:55 AM PDT by scooby321
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To: tflabo

“Why oh why do people keep flirting with destructive liberalism?”

Because the lights still work, The cell phone still gets a signal, Food magically still appears at the grocery, and the toilet still flushes.

So as long as civilization doesn’t look like one of those Zombie TV shows, they think no harm done.


13 posted on 10/20/2015 5:19:24 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: Nextrush

Wanna’ be a rock star...? Play politics; make the groupies swoon. It’s all about pop, not substance.


14 posted on 10/20/2015 5:21:45 AM PDT by pallis
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To: Ouderkirk

Canadian dollar trades at 77 US cents. It’s lost 25% of its value since 2011.

There was outside influence on both sides.. Steven Harper brought in John Howard’s (Australian) old campaign manager and he tried to stir the pot with a niqab issue. Obviously didn’t work.

Fact is, Canada is a resource-based economy, and like most resource based economies, it relied on exports to China. Blackberry was a great story, but it’s on a respirator. The housing market is in a bubble, particularly Vancouver, fueled by Chinese money trying to get out of that country. Don’t know how the auto makers are doing across the river from Detroit around Sarnia, I would guess they’re participating in the strong auto sales figures. Bombardier lost out on a big European contract recently.

But Canada isn’t that different from Russia— too many eggs in one basket. Western Canada has been subsidizing the eastern provinces for years. The welfare state never went away, it was just paid for with tax revenue off the exports to China.


15 posted on 10/20/2015 5:30:07 AM PDT by ameribbean expat
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To: Ouderkirk

today the Canadian dollar is at 77 cents (vs American $)

up north screwed themselves MULTIPLE ways here are a few:

1. Free medical- doctor shortage, and THEY TELL their patients to go to the U.S. if needing immediate or extensive treatment-

2. Bought into Kyoto big time- finally WITHDREW after the
goofy world communists wanted 14 Billion!! in fines!
So they now have signed on to Copenhagen accord!

3. accepting immigrants- who HATE Canada- gee where have
I heard this before?

Like the sheeple down here- the average Canadian has no
idea how their govt. is screwing their life- they blame it on the U.S.-


16 posted on 10/20/2015 5:30:37 AM PDT by mj1234
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To: Nextrush

My worry is what is going to happen to us out here in the desert if the Canadians cannot afford to winter here. How is going to buy and fix up the abandoned and foreclosed houses? Who will clean up and fix up these properties?
Lawdy, they are what kept us running during the Bush/Obama Depression and if they no longer come all we will have left is old farts and wetbacks.


17 posted on 10/20/2015 5:31:49 AM PDT by Tupelo (Honest men may go to Washington, but Honest men do not stay in Wahington.)
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To: Ouderkirk

CDN Dollar now at 1.3009 to the USD! http://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=USD&to=CAD


18 posted on 10/20/2015 5:36:04 AM PDT by WellyP (question!)
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To: Nextrush; Squawk 8888; Former Proud Canadian
I saw a CBC analyst last night say that Trudeau,unlike Harper and the NDP guy,promised to borrow to "kickstart" their economy.He also said that Trudeau's other priority will be the "environment".

Given that Canada's,like Australia's,economy is basically comodities-based it sounds to me that that could be a recipe for disaster.

19 posted on 10/20/2015 5:39:57 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Obamanomics:Trickle Up Poverty)
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To: Paladin2
Canadians didn’t like Fiscal Sanity?

Nobody likes Fiscal sanity. Everyone would love to throw a big spending party with other people's money, but people who aren't little children know this won't work for long and therefore they exercise responsibility.

20 posted on 10/20/2015 6:07:08 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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