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National Coalition for Men suing to require women to register for the draft
The Birmingham News ^ | December 4, 2015 | Leada Gore

Posted on 12/04/2015 5:39:01 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

A federal court in California will hear a case next week that could pave the way for women to be required to register for the draft.

The hearing involves an existing suit from the National Coalition for Men against Selective Service, which oversees the process by which men age 18 and above register for the military. The case is set to be heard Dec. 8 in the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit in Pasadena, California.

The hearing will take place just days after Secretary of Defense Ash Carter announced all military combat positions would be open to women. Service leaders had sought to keep some front-line posts as male-only positions but Carter said no jobs will be off limits to women, as long as they qualify and meet specific standards...

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: army; draft; military; selectiveservice
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To: eyedigress
I agree with it.

All combat is all combat. That includes signing your name and SSN at 18 years old.

Keep it real.

How's this for real, real men would rather that women not go into any combat situation - they know it is the man's job to put himself at risk "for the women and children".

A real man doesn't throw a hissy fit and then help the Leftist Trend to erase the difference between the sexes because "Mommy! IT'S NOT FAIR!!!"

81 posted on 12/05/2015 5:17:14 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: trebb

After being put on point and dying, the dead women will cause the volunteer rate among women to dry up


82 posted on 12/05/2015 5:19:21 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPyes but now I must concentratc.;+12, 73, ....carson is the kinder gentler trumping.)
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To: Dr. Sivana
"None of the complaints you lodged against modern women apply to my wife or daughters,"

Irrelevant, your daughters reap the "fruits" of the "equality" movement, so your daughters must accept the responsibilities that go with the flow that is occurring.

Do you think I want my two sons to register? Heck no, after what has been done to our military by opportunist politicians since the late 1950's, no parent would not want their sons or daughters to become "expendable" due to an out of whack foreign policy.

Now that "equality" is the goal in our "progressive" society, I fully expect my daughter to join my sons in registering for selective service. Women should not have "their cake and eat it too" in a society driving towards "equality" of the sexes.

Either get rid of registering for selective service or tell your daughters to embrace "equality" without being hypocrites. You probably want your daughters to succeed in the workforce where quotas and image reign. Well, men have been accepting their duties of citizenship, women must face the duties too if "equality" in all facets of society is truly our Sovereign's goals/direction.
83 posted on 12/05/2015 7:09:41 AM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: trebb
My wife did a tour in Afghan (Air Force 0-5), thanked God she woke (Resigned her Commission) up after years of her attempting to crack the "man's world" of military service against my wishes.

Women serving in the military (Only for a small section of support roles) should be limited. Unfortunately that is not reality as a Brave New World is not only being pushed on my daughter (Women can do it all Bull crap dangerous propaganda), but sons as well.

Well, we all deserve to "get it good and hard" in order for reality to slap us back down to earth. Forcing females to register would be a first step of slapping us back down and reexamining exactly where our society is going.

You think I want my daughter to register? Heck no, but if forced to then millions of parents will scratch their heads and contemplate this obsession with "equality" then hopefully come back down to earth.
84 posted on 12/05/2015 7:27:40 AM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Who did not see this coming?


85 posted on 12/05/2015 7:28:18 AM PST by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied, Otto Von Bismarck)
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To: rollo tomasi
Irrelevant, your daughters reap the "fruits" of the "equality" movement,

My daughters are homeschooled by their stay at home mom. They are being taught to be proper young ladies and eschew the fruits you are talking about.

Of course they will NOT be registering. Whether my son registers or not when he is of age will be up to him. If it is unlikely that he will be deployed into a just situation, I will advise him not to.

You probably want your daughters to succeed in the workforce where quotas and image reign.

Bad assumption, and one that you should not have made based on my earlier posts. And yes, I don't like the fact that modern society is reducing the number of options for men to support their families.

BTW, I'm all for getting rid of the Selective Service. Dumping draft registration was an unfulfilled promise by President Reagan.
86 posted on 12/05/2015 7:33:12 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: Dr. Sivana
Your daughters are being educated for "what" exactly?

Yes it would be nice for yearn for the saner things in life, but my sons will be living in a world where a large percentage of females are bent on competition, rather than co-operation. Competing with these females (Hollering about gender, equality, quotas, etc.) have advantages not afforded men. Its one thing to compete with other men on an equal plain; however females should also work on an equal playing field, or quit bitching about "grievances"/being "disadvantaged".

Sons should not have to face a disadvantage if traditional roles are being skewed in favor of narcissistic females who are in deep competition with every facet of those traditional roles.

If a small percentage of women drive the agenda at the expense of my sons, well guess what, the agenda should also weigh females down in order for a real change to occur/self reflection about nurturing society and the next generations to come.
87 posted on 12/05/2015 7:53:24 AM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: rollo tomasi
Your daughters are being educated for "what" exactly?

Reading, writing, 'rithmetic, Latin, literature, grammar, penmanship, theology, philosophy, arts and crafts, home economics, civics.

They are being educated to be better people. Not all education has to directed towards a "job". We need eduacted men and women to be educated fathers and mothers.

The same games you are complaining about will continue to be played even as they already have been in the volunteer armed forces at all levels and in all positions.
88 posted on 12/05/2015 8:01:21 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: Dr. Sivana
Again irrelevant.

What are your daughters going to do if they don't find a man to take care of them after all the "writing, 'rithmetic, Latin, literature, grammar, penmanship, theology, philosophy, arts and crafts, home economics, civics" is finished under your nest?

As I said before, men are starting to push back i.e. quitting the marriage "business", seeing females as their competition rather than the desire to nurture them, taking advantage of females' "empowerment" syndrome, taking advantage of trust in a marriage if they bother to marry (Same as females), etc.

Society is screwed up due to the selfishness of both males and females. Government policies/regulations/stipulations are aiding this destruction. Reality should be a wake up call, not this facade of perceptions attempting to manipulate reality.
89 posted on 12/05/2015 8:23:04 AM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: rollo tomasi
What are your daughters going to do if they don't find a man to take care of them after all the "writing, 'rithmetic, Latin, literature, grammar, penmanship, theology, philosophy, arts and crafts, home economics, civics" is finished under your nest?

Boy, you are really trying hard to pick a fight. There have always been positions that are traditionally held by women.

The kind of men who are quitting the marriage business are not suitable candidates for my daughters, anyway.
90 posted on 12/05/2015 9:06:04 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think the National Coalition for Men watched ‘ Mulan ‘ one time too many...


91 posted on 12/05/2015 9:15:32 AM PST by Popman (Christ alone: My Cornerstone...)
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To: trebb

Maybe you should take that up with your government.


92 posted on 12/05/2015 11:39:08 AM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west))
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To: Popman

Or perhaps read Joe Haldeman’s “The Forever War” and ran with it.


93 posted on 12/05/2015 11:47:26 AM PST by Ozark Tom
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To: PLMerite

Interesting theory - for sure nothing is beneath Obama and his henchmen......


94 posted on 12/05/2015 6:25:25 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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To: eyedigress
Maybe you should take that up with your government.

Couldn't find any real men to talk to. My point was that when we start pushing such crap "to make people wake up" we fall into the Leftist trap - maybe even worse than them because we realize the difference between men and women.

95 posted on 12/06/2015 3:18:15 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Himyar

As a serving member of a local draft board; there are actually two separate drafts possible. The general manpower draft; perhaps the one we are all most familiar with. And the Health care draft; the SSS maintains a list of healthcare specialties and can draft as needed. Interestingly, the upper age limit for this effort is much higher than the general draft. Should you be say a 20yr old RN, you would actually be a ‘dual registrant’ subject to both drafts.


96 posted on 12/06/2015 6:51:46 AM PST by hockea (1z2z)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Not picking a fight at all; however the government and feminists sure as heck are.


97 posted on 12/06/2015 8:19:22 AM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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This is silly because the vast majority of young women won’t even make the cut and be sent home.


98 posted on 12/10/2015 5:35:33 PM PST by snowstorm12
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To: fr_freak

I doubt anyone will rethink feminism since feminists aren’t pushing for a draft and they say “men start all the wars” because of “toxic masculinity”. Feminists also always say let men go kill each other. feminists and women would blame MRA’s and the “war on women” right wing etc. for starting this draft women campaign & starting wars. It looks like a men’s rights group pushing this lawsuit & it will all be blamed on misogyny and hatred of women & will continue to vote democrat.


99 posted on 12/10/2015 5:49:12 PM PST by snowstorm12
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