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MSNBC, CNN Storming of Shooters’ Home Could Be ‘Major ****-Up’ by FBI, Ex-Cop Says
The Wrap ^ | December 5, 2015 | Jordan Chariton

Posted on 12/05/2015 11:24:41 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

“It reminded me of days in the Old West where there’d be a shooting and the whole town would go through and look,” former NYPD officer Bill Stanton tells TheWrap.

The FBI potentially dropped the ball by letting media ransack the home of the San Bernardino shooters just two days after the massacre.

“They [the FBI] totally scrubbed it from head to toe, or it’s a major **** up,” former NYPD police officer Bill Stanton told TheWrap about reporters from MSNBC, CNN and other outlets being allowed into the suspects’ home to comb through photos and documents.

Stanton, who worked for the NYPD and in private security for 25 years, said the combined strength and power of the U.S. government and law enforcement could have successfully stripped down the shooters’ home successfully in a day.

But it’s also possible the FBI erred by giving the all-clear signal to the landlord to allow media into the home too soon.

“It doesn’t make our services look efficient,” Stanton continued. “It reminded me of days in the Old West where there’d be a shooting and the whole town would go through and look.”

On Friday, the FBI defended what looked like a chaotic and shocking scene on TV, saying the home was no longer a crime scene and its owners were free to do what they wanted with the property.

“We did a very thorough search and took our time and completed it,” she said. “There are cases where we need to preserve a location, but that’s extremely rare,” Laura Eimiller, a spokeswoman for the FBI in Los Angeles, told Reuters.

As TheWrap reported, MSNBC came under heavy fire on social media for showing unblurred images of children and other potential family and friends of the shooters who may have had nothing to do with the grisly massacre.

Another former NYPD officer, Tom Ruskin, told TheWrap that the network’s decision was “irresponsible and disgusting,” suggesting those people showed on camera could be forced into hiding as a result of their images being broadcast publicly.

“They have potentially caused innocent people, people that may not be tied to this crime, the possibility of being harmed, and they have to go into hiding,” Ruskin said.

The network expressed regret for showing the images. “We regret that we briefly showed images of photographs and identification cards that should not have been aired without review,” a spokesperson said in a statement Friday.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: California; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: billstanton; california; cnn; demagogicparty; media; memebuilding; msm; msnbc; newyork; newyorkcity; nypd; partisanmediashill; partisanmediashills; sanbernadino; sanbernardino; tomruskin
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

More proof that MSLSD is working for the Obama regime.


21 posted on 12/06/2015 1:43:55 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Falcon 105)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just another case of trickle down incompetence.


22 posted on 12/06/2015 1:47:40 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not A Matter of Opinion)
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To: pepsionice
...you just sit and wonder what the original plan was...

That's an excellent point. This probably wasn't the original plan. It would've made sense to keep an eye on that apartment, go through it thoroughly, check recent purchases (like for that package that was shipped). That original plan could've brought to light others involved, locations that might be targeted, whom they had contact with.

There are only two possibilities here: (1)The FBI are morons or (2)They want to hide information about terrorism

23 posted on 12/06/2015 1:59:24 AM PST by grania
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To: MNDude; Bob434

You both nailed it.

We couldn’t believe out eyes as we watched the media rummage through the piles of evidence left behind.

EVERY item....silverware, books, paperwork, toothbrushes should have been seized and fingerprinted & checked for DNA. The garage where they made the pipe bombs would have supplied a treasure trove of evidence, possibly identifying a list of cell members.

It’s almost as if it were planned that way.


24 posted on 12/06/2015 2:14:04 AM PST by panaxanax ( Cruz/West 2016)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

“It’s not like they have to worry about evidence being tainted at a trial. Both perps are dead.”

That’s true, but unless the FBI has sufficiently scrubbed that residence for prints, DNA or any other identifying artifacts, the opportunity to determine the presence of and locate any possible co-conspirators is completely lost. Ted Williams from Fox found an axe in the kitchen drawer. Maybe the FBI concluded axes are common kitchen items and determined it wasn’t a piece of evidence that might trace to someone wanting to hide it.. or maybe their sweep wasn’t all that thorough after all.


25 posted on 12/06/2015 2:39:48 AM PST by ScottinVA (If you're not enraged...why?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Obviously part of the plan

The enemedia is now the vanguard troops for any obama conceived and directed disaster

As I recently was made aware, the identity of farooq was known long before the incident and the alert camera crew could be in the house grabbing souvenirs before anyone knew what hit them

26 posted on 12/06/2015 3:16:16 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The FBI looks like the Keystone Cops!!! The cops looked VERY PROFESSIONAL, but when Obama’s FBI took over, they RUINED the whole thing!


27 posted on 12/06/2015 3:49:07 AM PST by Ann Archy (ABORTION....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
It’s not like they have to worry about evidence being tainted at a trial. Both perps are dead.

Would the tainting of evidence found there also provide legal cause to challenge any warrants issued on the basis thereof?

That could stop any chain of contacts from being investigated, making this an isolated incident for legal purposes, even if a notebook full of ISIS contacts in the US was laying on the coffee table.

28 posted on 12/06/2015 3:51:26 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: pepsionice
I think the evil couple planned something big, with help, but someone pissed the guy off at the party, and off they went, thinking that they would go home and finish off the planning and execution for the BIG ONE!

FBI is a BAD JOKE!! VERY BAD JOKE!

Obama has RUINED EVERYTHING he has touched!!

29 posted on 12/06/2015 3:52:00 AM PST by Ann Archy (ABORTION....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
What about illegal breaking and entering? All the property in the house now belongs to the next of kin and just because the residents are now dead doesn't mean it's open to the public.........

If I were the relatives, my attorney would be filing charges against the landlord and everyone else right now........

30 posted on 12/06/2015 3:56:26 AM PST by Hot Tabasco
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To: grania

RE: “There are only two possibilities here: (1)The FBI are morons or (2)They want to hide information about terrorism “

Not to quibble, but I am pretty sure the FBI and it’s personnel are not morons.


31 posted on 12/06/2015 4:04:42 AM PST by Tupelo (Honest men go to Washington, but honest men do not stay in Washington.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If the FBI released the apartment as a crime scene, wouldn’t it then fall to the authority of the State, then local officials to determine other interests, prior to being released to the next of kin?

Before the public or even the press or even the landlord has the authority to enter the premises, I suspect the owners, now either being the son and his guardians, have property rights which need to be addressed.

I would anticipate the State’s Children Protective Services have an interest to verify the next of kin are not also guilty of the criminal actions committed, before releasing the children to them as next of kin.


32 posted on 12/06/2015 4:06:15 AM PST by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
Would the tainting of evidence found there also provide legal cause to challenge any warrants issued on the basis thereof?

That could stop any chain of contacts from being investigated, making this an isolated incident for legal purposes, even if a notebook full of ISIS contacts in the US was laying on the coffee table.

Ha...sounds like the Banghazi playbook in action...

33 posted on 12/06/2015 4:06:43 AM PST by spokeshave (MDSM = Mentally Discombobulated Screaming Media)
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To: Ann Archy
I think the evil couple planned something big, with help, but someone pissed the guy off at the party, and off they went, thinking that they would go home and finish off the planning and execution for the BIG ONE!

It wasn't because somebody pissed him off at the party. They started the morning knowing they were going to commit a massacre.

They dropped the kid off at grandma's that morning, falsely claiming a doctor's appointment. He left the party, and came back shortly thereafter geared up, and with wife, indicating she was waiting outside with the car containing their stuff.

34 posted on 12/06/2015 4:10:21 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: PapaBear3625

I thought the grandma LIVED with them....where did they drop the baby off?? THAT is a crime scene if you ask me.


35 posted on 12/06/2015 4:14:41 AM PST by Ann Archy (ABORTION....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I think we are all missing something big here. It was the FBI and Connecticut State Police who said that anyone caught within 50 feet of the Sandy Hook school would be arrested, jailed and tried for "tampering with evidence" or some such BS.

They REFUSED to let anyone near the building with a camera, let alone inside the damn thing. And then, while basically threatening everyone with prosecution to the fullest extent of the law, the bastards razed the entire facility into rubble.

Now, someone please tell me why the fraud at Sandy Hook was so well protected, yet a real terrorist shooting incident like this is so badly botched?

36 posted on 12/06/2015 4:14:57 AM PST by Prole
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
It’s not like they have to worry about evidence being tainted at a trial. Both perps are dead.

No, but you want fingerprints of the mysterious dudes who were streaming in and out of the place.

37 posted on 12/06/2015 4:24:20 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: MarchonDC09122009

I don’t buy that.

If the FBI looks the other way and another massacre happens as a result of their not doing due diligence in this massacre, they will look totally inept at best and corrupt at worse.

I think the FBI found a treasure trove of information and it will take time to investigate it all. Sometimes the strategy is to make those who are complicit think they’re home free because then those people will take chances and make mistakes.


38 posted on 12/06/2015 4:33:32 AM PST by randita
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To: ScottinVA

They need an ax in the kitchen to kill pregnant goats and whatnot.


39 posted on 12/06/2015 4:36:42 AM PST by Califreak (Hope and Che'nge is killing U.S. Feel the Trump-mentum!(insert ireallysupportCruzdisclaimerhere/))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The crime scene as been compromised it has been declared, the narative will be “he was a nice boy with mental problems and his wife was a poor lost girl who was out to find herself”


40 posted on 12/06/2015 4:37:20 AM PST by ronnie raygun (If we dont stand we will fall hard)
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