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MSNBC, CNN Storming of Shooters’ Home Could Be ‘Major ****-Up’ by FBI, Ex-Cop Says
The Wrap ^ | December 5, 2015 | Jordan Chariton

Posted on 12/05/2015 11:24:41 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

“It reminded me of days in the Old West where there’d be a shooting and the whole town would go through and look,” former NYPD officer Bill Stanton tells TheWrap.

The FBI potentially dropped the ball by letting media ransack the home of the San Bernardino shooters just two days after the massacre.

“They [the FBI] totally scrubbed it from head to toe, or it’s a major **** up,” former NYPD police officer Bill Stanton told TheWrap about reporters from MSNBC, CNN and other outlets being allowed into the suspects’ home to comb through photos and documents.

Stanton, who worked for the NYPD and in private security for 25 years, said the combined strength and power of the U.S. government and law enforcement could have successfully stripped down the shooters’ home successfully in a day.

But it’s also possible the FBI erred by giving the all-clear signal to the landlord to allow media into the home too soon.

“It doesn’t make our services look efficient,” Stanton continued. “It reminded me of days in the Old West where there’d be a shooting and the whole town would go through and look.”

On Friday, the FBI defended what looked like a chaotic and shocking scene on TV, saying the home was no longer a crime scene and its owners were free to do what they wanted with the property.

“We did a very thorough search and took our time and completed it,” she said. “There are cases where we need to preserve a location, but that’s extremely rare,” Laura Eimiller, a spokeswoman for the FBI in Los Angeles, told Reuters.

As TheWrap reported, MSNBC came under heavy fire on social media for showing unblurred images of children and other potential family and friends of the shooters who may have had nothing to do with the grisly massacre.

Another former NYPD officer, Tom Ruskin, told TheWrap that the network’s decision was “irresponsible and disgusting,” suggesting those people showed on camera could be forced into hiding as a result of their images being broadcast publicly.

“They have potentially caused innocent people, people that may not be tied to this crime, the possibility of being harmed, and they have to go into hiding,” Ruskin said.

The network expressed regret for showing the images. “We regret that we briefly showed images of photographs and identification cards that should not have been aired without review,” a spokesperson said in a statement Friday.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: California; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: billstanton; california; cnn; demagogicparty; media; memebuilding; msm; msnbc; newyork; newyorkcity; nypd; partisanmediashill; partisanmediashills; sanbernadino; sanbernardino; tomruskin
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1 posted on 12/05/2015 11:24:42 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bump for later.


2 posted on 12/05/2015 11:28:42 PM PST by rdl6989
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Partisan Media Shills corrupt evidence against jihadist terrorist mass-murderers, and are enabled to do so by Zerobama, and his henchwoman Loretta Lynch.

3 posted on 12/05/2015 11:33:43 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When you stand back and look at the big picture...you come away with a couple of observations.

The FBI look like some Banana-republic 5th-grade kids who’ve been called in to look for Mrs Mulligan’s cat. Their act, at best, simply shows that the AG doesn’t care or want effective law enforcement.

The news media stands there and pretends to be concerned...but it’s mostly all act. Some ratings bump....some glossy images....some hype....and back to a marginal news service.

Finally, you just sit and wonder what the original plan was because this appears to be some off-the-handle moment when the husband just said ‘lets go’. It’s almost like the two were hyped up or on some narcotic (like the Paris attackers).


4 posted on 12/05/2015 11:34:39 PM PST by pepsionice
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s not like they have to worry about evidence being tainted at a trial. Both perps are dead.


5 posted on 12/05/2015 11:35:30 PM PST by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This was intentional by order of the OF***head administration.

Somehow they want to make it look like law enforcement is wrong and they f***ed up and this was just a disgruntled average couple. Who could blame them when Mohammed’s beard was made fun of?

Beard shaming went on, so a couple should abandon their baby and get bombs and guns. Who can blame them. Those a-holes in law enforcement......


6 posted on 12/05/2015 11:36:25 PM PST by Calpublican (B.O. stinks--not an elegant sentiment, but heartfelt nonetheless.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Well you know the conspiracy theory's, a big one yesterday was the FBI did this on purpose to make ISIS mad and show them they were nothing.
7 posted on 12/05/2015 11:37:58 PM PST by easternsky
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To: easternsky

[[Well you know the conspiracy theory’s, a big one yesterday was the FBI did this on purpose to make ISIS mad and show them they were nothing. ]]

More likely that the FBI and police got their orders from the president or ilk to allow them in to contaminate and destroy evidence so that anyone who might be involved with the two dead peeps will get to claim that evidence was ‘planted’ ‘not handled properly’ etc-


8 posted on 12/05/2015 11:41:42 PM PST by Bob434
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Smells like when the admin let the undybomber Abdulmutallab lawyer up before interrogating him.


9 posted on 12/05/2015 11:44:02 PM PST by piasa
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

It has been reported that they had numerous visitors to the place however. Now the chances of finding fingerprints of individuals on watchlists has been greatly decreased.


10 posted on 12/05/2015 11:49:04 PM PST by MNDude (God is not a Republican, but Satan is certainly a Democrat.)
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To: Bob434

For sure, do not think for a minute they were pulling all of this together on their own, and they know if they start following leads it will be a trail right back to Washington.


11 posted on 12/05/2015 11:50:44 PM PST by easternsky
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To: MNDude

When the SB terrorist massacre occurred, it was heard ‘heavily armed and suited up gunman’ were involved. The get away vehicle a black SUV. There is something fishy in Denmark and it’s beginning to smell as bad as our oo and the asses inside. So we now have two dead radical islamic terrorists, brothers (per say) to our pResident in the White House. Two down, yet the creature still stands - just not with them. What did they know and what was found in their home to lead suspicion to some who preferred to stay ‘lily white’? This story will be very, very interesting as Artie Johnson might say.

TRUMP/CRUZ FOR JUSTICE~ for WTP!!


12 posted on 12/06/2015 12:02:50 AM PST by V K Lee (u TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP to TRIUMPH Follow the lead MAKE AMERICA GREAT)
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To: MNDude; All

Bingo - this was a deliberate act to ensure no further investigation and prosecution of additional Muslim suspects.
Obola promised that he would side with Islam when ugly winds turned against them...
He has severely handicapped the FBI’s ability to so much as consider Islam a persistent threat to national security.
This is Treason!

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Mar 26, 2014 ... ... that effectively neutered FBI counter-terrorism training and blinded our nation’s intelligence agencies to the threat from Islamic terrorism. ... openly called for “ Perez to change the federal government’s rules governing terror


13 posted on 12/06/2015 12:05:42 AM PST by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
Could have been lots of valuable evidence not collected and purposefully not collected.

One ex detective said that he saw no evidence of dusting for fingerprints.

A neighbor said that they had seen 5-6 middle eastern males coming and going recently.

Those fingerprints or dna are now gone or evidence corrupted.

14 posted on 12/06/2015 12:08:10 AM PST by Eagles6 ( Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

The problem is they tainted a scene that could lead to clues about others involved and the connections to world-wide terrorism. I think it was intentionally done.


15 posted on 12/06/2015 12:14:37 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: I like to destroy the Turks (Moslims))
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

The best prosecution process against Islamic Terrorists.


16 posted on 12/06/2015 12:27:36 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
It’s not like they have to worry about evidence being tainted at a trial. Both perps are dead.

It is very, very doubtful they carried this off alone. Letting so many people walk through and ransack has destroyed any evidence that could tie others to this couple.

Think this one through. The guy made $51k per year. He had a new wife and new baby, and is living in high-tax CA. How much did the trip to Saudi Arabia cost? How much did the weapons and ammo cost?

I just don't think he has that much disposable income left after living in CA. Despite it seeming like a lot in other areas. Someone else is involved. Not for million$, but for $10-20k. A small enough amount that one, or a few locals could have provided it, but a lot more than Farook could have dug up from the couch cushions.

17 posted on 12/06/2015 12:28:35 AM PST by CurlyDave
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To: CurlyDave

Bingo !


18 posted on 12/06/2015 12:45:20 AM PST by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Major ****-Up by FBI"

Isn't there an old adage, "Never attribute to incompetence that which is done deliberately."
Well, something like that /s>
19 posted on 12/06/2015 12:47:58 AM PST by Mr Radical
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To: CurlyDave

It doesn’t make much sense, really. FBI ‘finished’ with the crime scene after only a few hours? I seem to recall that Unibomber. After getting caught, didn’t they disassemble his mountain cabin in its entirety and transport it back for more inspection and analysis?

From what I saw of the photo collage of the place, there was too much there to just be done in a few hours. Who knows what Muslim Terrorists we won’t be able to prosecute now.

If this was really a major FBI eff-up, then we are in deep sh!t with respect to Muslim terrorists in this country. If it was a ‘higher-up’ directive, then we all know what the means, too.


20 posted on 12/06/2015 1:39:17 AM PST by Gaffer
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