Posted on 12/07/2015 8:09:55 AM PST by nuconvert
By their fruits ye shall know them.
I am willing to afford this group the chance to try and reform islam. (If they succeed I will even capitalize islam).
But I am unwilling to forestall meaningful actions on my own part waiting for them to succeed.
“...they are promised a perpetual orgy with seventy-two nubile virgin slave girls ...” - originally they were white raisins, a very valuable commodity in 7th century Arabia.
Nuking or otherwise turning Mecca and Medina into a radioactive wasteland is the only sure way of eliminating this evil. (But what evil will arise to take its place?)
As long as they are trying, it doesn’t hurt to let it go.
But it doesn’t mean any lessening of vigilance.
Then why stay in that faith? The entire faith is violent, built on violence, propogated now by violence and completely soaked in blood.
Why try to reform islam? Convert to Christianity. It has all the reforms that they will try to implement in islam. They already exist in Christianity.
Plus because islam was spread by conquest. Most muslims are practicing the religion of tyrannical conquerors. Most muslims have a Christian ancestor who was converted to islam at the point of a sword.
I guess this is like cafeteria Muslims!
Obviously, ‘taqqiya’ is an equally probable description of this as ‘genuine’, given the specific teachings of the koran and the practices of its adherents.
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“Obviously, ‘taqqiya’ is an equally probable description of this as ‘genuine’”
No, it isn’t
“”He’s trying. Let’s hope he’s successful””
He is a good one and as long as he’s been speaking out, this should have taken place much sooner... Can’t get hopes up after all we’ve seen and heard but good luck to him. Hope he realizes he’ll have a problem with the jerk in the WH and those pulling his strings and his dirt bag advisors.
You don't have to be muslim to have read the koran and the hadith and to understand the impossibility of reforming islam. It was born in blood, thrived in blood and exists today as it always has. Killing infidels and terrorizing it's adherents who stray.
He has spoken out countless times against Obama and the people he surrounds himself with.
Proclaim Christ as savior and truly reform.
Thanks also for the link; I have bookmarked for future re-reading and study. Sorry I missed the free "Enemies" series for Kindle last week, but I like your writing style so the cost to purchase will be well worth it!
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Suspect this is going to be to little to late.
nuconvert, the Christian reformation was founded on extra-biblical actions taken by the church, and demanded a return to the biblical basis of theology.
A muslim reformation requires fundamentally rewriting significant portions of their ‘gospel’, removing the militant components (and the societal legal components, to bring compatibility with western law).
A failure to recognize this bedrock difference between the two situations in favor of hope is unwise, to say the least.
“A group of reform-minded Muslims gathered in Washington, D.C. for a brainstorming session.”
Oh yea, they’re all in!
I wish them luck and speed!
Wansee redux..
“A muslim reformation requires fundamentally rewriting significant portions of their ‘gospel’, removing the militant components (and the societal legal components, to bring compatibility with western law).”
Fine. Let them do it.
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