Posted on 01/04/2016 8:47:29 PM PST by servo1969
“...required to get an Federal Firearms License (FFL) and go through background checks each time they sell a gun.”
I called it! This is what Bloomberg et. al. got passed in the state of Washington. Although it is for gun “transfers”. Legally I can’t even let my adult son shot my gun at the range without an FFL. (It IS spelled out in the 18 page law that I can loan my gun to my spouse at a registered range. But not while plinking out in the woods.)
I am guessing that obama’s decree will also use the word “transfer” instead of sales.
[[Executive orders apply to executive agencies-not private citizens.]]
I believe the iran deal was an executive order, no?
Mine are tied up in our Trust funds and assigned to who they go to. Trust funds don’t go through probate, nor subject to lawsuits.
And we allow this.
Just found out his last name was soebarkah last night
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFCQvvXSwx4
Go to 6.10 seconds In the video- it shows that name on a form
“How are they going to enforce it?”
Subjectively.
They don’t care about making it work, they just want the power to use it to occasionally destroy an opponent. Or, as Pol Pot said, to kill one monkey to scare ten.
With no minimum “trigger”, every private sale would require a background check (associated with the serial number of the weapon). Later they can require non-sale transfers as well.
Just like in 1984, they don’t intend to enforce all the laws, they just want everyone caught up in the web, so that anyone can be prosecuted for something, anytime they dare to speak out against the party.
Only 20? damn was hoping for at least 40
It's tantamount to a total ban on private sales and transfers. Something this draconian is likely to foment massive civil disobedience, if not outright Revolution.
I sh!t you not...
Yeah, whatever, Bath House Barry.
My 2nd Amendment rights trump your stupid pen.
Using the same logic....if I were going to sell my car....I’d be a registered dealer before I could conclude the deal. If I were selling my property without a real estate company involved....I’d have to be a registered real estate dealer before I could conclude the deal. If I were going to sell lemonade in front of the house as a ten-year-old-kid, I’d have to be a registered dealer. If I were going to sell cattle from my farm, I’d have to be a registered cattle dealer. If I was going to have a garage sell or sell a truckload of junk at a flea-market, I’d have to be a registered dealer of some sort.
For some reason, I don’t see this lasting too long. There’ll probably be a dozen states by March which put up state laws to note that the cut-off will X number of weapons and openly challenge the EO.
Exactly. Only by stings and entrapment. Sell your buddy a rifle they’ll never know.
If you read the actual fact sheet, it seems like nothing much is being changed on private sales. It is merely “clarifying” that the current regulations already exist. It already doesn’t matter where you sell the guns and according to the fact sheet courts have already held that a small number of sales could be “in the business” depending upon other factors.
Seems like a bunch of hype to convince the Left he is “doing something” on guns. He might be doing this so Democrats will be able to convince their anti-gun base that there is now no need for any unpopular anti gun legislation that would hurt them in the 2016 elections.
Here is the text:
Clarify that it doesn’t matter where you conduct your business—from a store, at gun shows, or over the Internet: If you’re in the business of selling firearms, you must get a license and conduct background checks. Background checks have been shown to keep guns out of the wrong hands, but too many gun sales—particularly online and at gun shows—occur without basic background checks. Today, the Administration took action to ensure that anyone who is “engaged in the business†of selling firearms is licensed and conducts background checks on their customers. Consistent with court rulings on this issue, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) has clarified the following principles:A person can be engaged in the business of dealing in firearms regardless of the location in which firearm transactions are conducted. For example, a person can be engaged in the business of dealing in firearms even if the person only conducts firearm transactions at gun shows or through the Internet. Those engaged in the business of dealing in firearms who utilize the Internet or other technologies must obtain a license, just as a dealer whose business is run out of a traditional brick-and-mortar store.Quantity and frequency of sales are relevant indicators. There is no specific threshold number of firearms purchased or sold that triggers the licensure requirement. But it is important to note that even a few transactions, when combined with other evidence, can be sufficient to establish that a person is “engaged in the business.†For example, courts have upheld convictions for dealing without a license when as few as two firearms were sold or when only one or two transactions took place, when other factors also were present.There are criminal penalties for failing to comply with these requirements. A person who willfully engages in the business of dealing in firearms without the required license is subject to criminal prosecution and can be sentenced up to five years in prison and fined up to $250,000. Dealers are also subject to penalties for failing to conduct background checks before completing a sale.
I am not so confident he will be the next POTUS.
fascism
>>you forgot your sarc tag!
A sarc tag is not really necessary anymore when talking about the GOP “controlled” Congress. No one here believes the GOP is on our side anymore.
Buried deep in the EO will be language that allows confiscation of weapons for noncompliance. They will overreach... again.
As will Aids.
It’s not about enforcing the law. It’s about having something with which to arbitrarily club citizens when they say the wrong things. homobama is practicing a form of terrorism which Ayn Rand described much better than I can.
Sarc tags went out with tinfoil hats.....
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