Posted on 01/07/2016 4:15:25 PM PST by Maceman
I’m cool...
Thats as far as I got.
It’s mook ... but the line is good
Good point since the Big Guy himself has voiced quite a bit of support for Trump.
Why are you putting words in my mouth and mischaracterizing me? I’ll gladly vote for him as my second favorite after Cruz, I merely voiced my misgivings. If he wins the election then obviously my fears were unfounded. If he loses I’ll wonder along with you I suspect wheather he was just another in a long line of Republicans purposely throwing the election in favor of the Dem candidate.
| ...[Trump's] rallies are terrible! He stands up there and rambles for over an hour and offers not specific details on his plans. Not everyone appreciates Trump's speeches. I understand that. As a Trump supporter who has watched several of his speeches on-line, let me take a crack at explaining why I still watch them. It's like a sports team. Once you follow a team for a while, be it the Boston Red Sox, the Dallas Cowboys -- whoever it is, you get hooked. However before you reach the point of committing to a team, you weigh the quality of what's there. And if it's a president you're choosing, you first look at the usual stuff: the policies he or she supports, the organization around the campaign, the debates, and other political factors. Now with Trump, I think there's an indefinable leadership he radiates that people want to be near. They want to have an experience with him, because he's become a colleague, almost family now. And we also love the "spirit in the room" -- being with other Americans and showing our pride in the man and our country. Trump does that for us. So when we watch him on-line or attend a rally, his fans almost know 60% of what he's going to say! And his detailed positions are not that important because we can always read his book, Crippled America, or go to his website to read all that. So as a Trump supporter, I look at the whole package: his success in life, his strength of character, his refusal to back down, his utter confidence in himself, his love of his country, the videos I've seen, the hotels and golf courses he's built, even the maturity of his children. All of that is in my head -- or rather, all of that is in my heart. So no matter what he may say at any particular rally, the important thing is my love for the man and what I feel he can do to heal my beloved country. |
Thanks, my FRiend.
"To walk with Kings and not lose the common touch."
Rudyard Kipling, If.
Thank you, a wonderful testimony.
People are forever putting words into the mouths of Franklin, Lincoln, Emerson, and Churchill.
I always refer to Wikiquotes and they will often show frequently misquoted phrases.
Trump may or may not be a good person. I think he has put himself in a postion to try to save our country. Nothing more than others have done and still do. And I’ve heard worse from presidents (mostly criminals in a suit) , lawmakers (criminals) and news readers (liars)..
My comments on the various statements in the article which has no annotations. My one documented annotation rebuts the lincoln crap.
How could someone make such statements and not quote any speech. I’d like to see the version where he documents the statements. So I will employ the negative of Fallacy of composition – assuming that something true of part of a whole must also be true of the whole.[34] where one point is false all is false. Ha ha
following are the excerpts from the peice and my comments with links to wiki fallacies which I would love to be able to recite from memory.
it’s not okay to marginalize an entire race of people, saying things like all the Mexicans are lazy, and they are all stealing our jobs and bringing drugs into our country. >> no quote from a speech which are all on youtube. Maybe Argument from repetition (argumentum ad infinitum) – signifies that it has been discussed extensively until nobody cares to discuss it anymore;[17][18] sometimes confused with proof by assertion Proof by assertion – a proposition is repeatedly restated regardless of contradiction; sometimes confused with argument from repetition a.k.a. argumentum ad infinitum
Kicking all Muslims out of the country is not the answer, nor is it the acceptable behavior of a person in an extremely powerful position, like the President of the United States. >>> (shifting the) Burden of proof (see – onus probandi) – I need not prove my claim, you must prove it is false misquoted, muslim is a government ideology clothed in a religion that want to take over the world a death cult.
against the same ideas that Trump is pushing. The idea that certain religions are more dangerous than others and the idea that people should be judged based on the color of their skin rather than the content of their character. >>>> Argumentum ad lapidem (Latin: “to the stone”) is a logical fallacy Muslim is not a religion. It is a governmental system. He never judges anyon by their color. Only the death cult they believe. Nice red herring changing the “some religions are more dangerous than skin color†wow Red herring – a speaker attempts to distract an audience by deviating from the topic at hand by introducing a separate argument the speaker believes is easier to speak to.[50]
And then there are just the plainly insane people who finally snap and go on shooting rampages for no discernible reason at all. They just went mad. >>>> Begging the question (petitio principii) – providing what is essentially the conclusion of the argument as a premise.[22][23][24][25] public policy is not dictated by what a few insane people do.
“light the mother@!$%#er on fire” while a protester is being dragged out of one of his rallies. >>> no quote from a rally on this. I’ve listened to a lot mostly to not heard second hand what he says.
Grandma to get into a fist fight in her home. >>> Grandma got run over by a reindeer this year
If you’re not a racist, bigoted, misogynistic jerk then voting for Trump simply because you don’t like Democrats is wrong. If you are one of his supporters and you’re just a racist and you don’t care who knows it then vote for him, >> fallacy of false choice.
“[I am] calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country’s representatives can figure out what is going on” - Donald Trump That’s religious discrimination. >>>> it’s saying let’s get a handle on what’s going on. Rational human beings do this everyday.
“I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and cause me to tremble for safety of my country; corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in High Places will follow, and the Money Power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the People, until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic destroyed.” >>>> no letter no speech no public record. At the time of lincoln corporations were specific government entities chartered for specific purposes like highly capitalized events. Railroads, canals, etc. Generalized incorporation laws were foisted on us by FDR in 1933. debunked on npr.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=125169095
“When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending the best. They’re not sending you, they’re sending people that have lots of problems and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists… And some, I assume, are good people.” -Donald Trump Racist. >>>> Trump the truth teller. Nothing wrong with this at all
Here is a last fallcy
Shotgun argumentation – the arguer offers such a large number of arguments for a position that the opponent can’t possibly respond to all of them. (See “Argument by verbosity” and “Gish Gallop”, above.)
That is a leftist's opinion regarding ALL conservative people. So, it would be safe to say, "Donald fits it with the rest of us".
And then it will be 1761st time Trump campaign will be doomed /S
You give points in favor of Trump.
But let me ask you something. Don’t take it the wrong way, but why do you trust Donald Trump?
I don’t question your judgement. I ask because I do have my moments where I can hear Trump or read about him and start to think he may be just what this country needs....but then I go back and look at him and his political past, and I go “I can’t trust him.”
To make my point, these are the things that bother me about him:
1) His leaving the Republican party and changing to Democrat. Leaving the Republicans and becoming independent because the part leadership sucks is one thing, but changing to Democrat in post 9/11 America?
2) His past associations with the Clintons. He contributed to Hillarys’ Senate campaigns. They have been guests at his parties. They were guests at his wedding. He is on record praising Bill Clinton as President. If elected, will he be the real Clinton II?
3) He has in the past has favored gay marriage.
4) He is on record as being pro choice.
5) Based on items 3 and 4, what kind of Supreme Court justice would he appoint?
6) His ego. It’s reknown. How can I know this whole thing isn’t just a sham to fuel his ego?
Just curious how one can past such questions and doubts? I admit, I have my moments when I want to jump on the bandwagon. But I always go back to those questions.
All that being said, I don’t believe anyone running as Republican can win a national election these days. To win a Republican candidate needs to do exactly what the 2004 map was just to barely win. Since then Virginia, Colorado, Nevada and Florida have become rock solid blue states. Hillary’s character does not matter. Everyone know she is corrupt. But a majority of voters are Democrats on the issues now. They will vote for the Democrat over any Republican,
Trump, if he is the nominee, very well may draw in a few Democrats who can’t get past Hillary being a crook. But he also will have to deal with 20% of Republicans who say the will either not vote or go Libertarian if Trump is nominated. That’s what will sink him. I just don’t see a path to victory for Trump.
Cruz, while I think he would lose as well, may have a slight outside shot. If he can draw in some evangelical voters in Virgina that passed on voting in 2008 and 2012 he could slightly make VA red one last time. Then if he could get a big Cuban voter turnout it could help tip Florida. Then if he could maybe win back some conservative voters in NV, CO and OH that sat out 2008 and 2012 maybe those states. It’s a reach, but slightly possible.
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Sorry, no, he didn’t do it to anyone else.
That’s just who he is.
An honorable man would have nothing to do with Pelousey.
Blah, blah, blah. . .
‘Damn the politicians. Full speed ahead!’
“Ask yourself, are you a racist, sexist, hateful and ignorant person as well?”
Nix writes that like It’s A Bad Thing...
Bump to that!!!
To the author: no one is perfect. Why didn’t you write the long Facebook post of vitriol over Barack Obama? He was unabashedly Black and Muslim uber alles while he was campaigning and has stayed so even while Presidenting. He is racist as well, always doing back bends to defend Muslims and/or blacks.
Re sexism: Donald Trump makes comments about beautiful women, and some off color remarks about himself, not in context of his campaign, but over his lifetime. Please. Did you write a similar soliloquy about Bull Clinton? You can’t get more womanizing and worse than Bill Clinton. And Hillary trashed Bill’s rape victims. She called them all nuts and sluts. She treated rape victims with abject cruelty.
If everything you say about Donald Trump is true, which it isn’t, why don’t you feel the need to address your friends who supported Democrat candidates with huge moral failings? Hm? Why do they always get free passes to be rude, crude, racist, and criminal?
Good post. One other thing I admire about Trump - his dad made him work and work he did, fixing toilets and housing repairs on the weekends. He worked while his friends partied. Not like Choom Gang _resident. He got his hand dirty like everyone else. He has a very strong work ethic.
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