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LIVE THREAD Donald Trump VETERANS Rally in Des Moines, Iowa Airing Jan 28 9:00pm EST on C-SPAN
http://www.c-span.org/video/?403832-1/donald-trump-campaign-rally-des-moines-iowa ^ | 1/28/2016 | Nikos1121

Posted on 01/28/2016 4:13:23 AM PST by nikos1121

I’m not really sure what will happen tonight. I truly hope that Donald Trump will keep his word and follow through on his decision to not attend the debate and hold a separate forum in Des Moines, but who knows. For now, C-Span says they will cover it.

Sometimes it’s best to walk away from a bad deal and not look back. It’s another opportunity for Trump to “teach us.” I guess we’ll see. Hopefully we won’t get whipsawed all day long and that the Des Moines rally is on and FR people here will participate.

It seems pretty clear to me that Trump was tipped off about an unformatted ambush with other activist questioners, (who may not even be Americans), with their own agendas. Did they intend to pull a Jorge Ramos on him to disrupt—maybe to get him to walk off the stage or say something regrettable?

Whose idea was it in the first place to have these people ask questions? This is the kind of maneuver we’d expect from a more left wing station, not Fox, but we’ve sure learned something this past year, haven’t we about this network, and the people we’ve allowed in our homes day in and day out?

And who wrote that chicken bleep press release that mocked Trump with references to our enemies? Was it Ailes himself? I sense the good people like Jeanine Pirro and Brett Bair are pretty embarrassed this morning. They should all be.

The Fox network intent, as I see it, is more ominous and thinly cloaked and perhaps about other things. Megyn Kelly’s objective was to make her the center of attention over the candidates and her colleagues, but already Rupert Murdoch voices his desire to have Michael Bloomberg enter the race, and we’re hearing of some backdoor dealings of his, and Fox, that favors illegal immigration. I guess we will see what is fact and what is fiction eventually.

Make no mistake, immigration, legal and illegal over the past 25 years, has altered the cultural and political trajectory of our country. Who can say if this is good or bad? It really depends on who you are. I worry that ultimately it will affect our freedoms.

Ted Kennedy and other passive politicians from both sides, and presidents have got the politics wrong about immigration. It used to be that immigrants coming here from wherever, and their offspring proudly said they were “Americans” first. Now, I’m not so sure.

Was that the political intent? To ultimately change the complexion of our nation and endanger our freedoms by pitting us against one another, and to have people coming here not to assimilate with us, but to defy us?

This will all pass, just like it did in 1980 when Ronald Reagan chose not to debate George Bush before the Iowa caucus, and maybe, before it does, it will turn the Iowa caucus on its ear with a surprise winner. I think all of us have seen through the rallies that Iowans are a special brand of people.

Those Iowans, that “usually get out and vote”, are a microcosm of the people we used to be, before John Kennedy was killed. They usually vote in the end for “the person who appears to have the best heart.” I think it’s Trump, they might think it’s Carson. I only hope that they do not take his refusal to debate as a personal affront to them.

All of our candidates are true patriots. Any one of them could lead our country better than the people who have led us these past eight, maybe 24 years. Whomever wins the nomination should have our support.

I pray that God gives each of these people the wisdom to do what is best for the people of our country. Can Fox say that the organization and spirit of their debate had that same intent? I truly doubt it.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: cnn; cspan; debate; debates; elections; fox; freepereditorial; immigration; livetrumpvetsevent; rally; trump; trumprallythread; trumprallytonight; trumprebellion; trumpvetsevent; trumpwasright; veterans
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To: kiryandil

9 for 9

another Dem


1,341 posted on 01/28/2016 7:31:35 PM PST by ozarkgirl
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To: nopardons

I enjoy your way with words, that just made me laugh, after tearing up watching this heartfelt American fest for OUR vets.


1,342 posted on 01/28/2016 7:31:47 PM PST by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: LS

Agree with your analysis, but I think the corollary to that analysis will be that Trump was that good as a politician that he assisted Ted in the unraveling. Trump is a natural at this, but that said, I don’t think the professional pundit class realized what great training being a developer in NYC was for being a politician.


1,343 posted on 01/28/2016 7:32:00 PM PST by usafa92 (Conservative in Jersey)
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To: WTFOVR
IT ain’t over yet - Obola can still wreak much destruction between now and January 2017. Much prayer and fasting is needed.

I dunno

I'm kind of thinking that tonight just started the new presidency.

Is that crazy ?? Deeper minds than mine need to weigh in.

1,344 posted on 01/28/2016 7:32:13 PM PST by onona (Check your shark at the door)
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To: kiryandil

Lady on now says she’s changing party to vote for Trump.


1,345 posted on 01/28/2016 7:32:22 PM PST by Red Steel (Ted Cruz: 'I'm a Big Fan of Donald Trump')
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To: Jane Long

AMEN !


1,346 posted on 01/28/2016 7:32:22 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Right_in_Virginia

I’m listening to the callers also! Dems switching for Trump!


1,347 posted on 01/28/2016 7:32:23 PM PST by djstex (Sarah Palin," I'm in It to Win It" Trump Towers Above the Rest)
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To: bushwon

10 for 10!!!

Another California Democrat!


1,348 posted on 01/28/2016 7:32:23 PM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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To: weston

that was really incredible wasn’t it? very emotional the focus on PTSD and vets suffering. awesome for them to acknowledge VV.


1,349 posted on 01/28/2016 7:32:35 PM PST by visualops (Why yes, I am on the #TrumpTrain. I'd like to win for a change.)
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To: djstex

10 for 10!!!

Another California Democrat!


1,350 posted on 01/28/2016 7:32:48 PM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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To: kiryandil

he’s 8 for 8 in the calls.

mix of Republicans and Democrats.
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Now I’m crying. I am just speechless.


1,351 posted on 01/28/2016 7:32:52 PM PST by GeaugaRepublican (Angry yes, mad, no. Finished with Conservatism Incorporated.)
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To: djstex

It’s amazing, isn’t it?!!!


1,352 posted on 01/28/2016 7:33:03 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: VerySadAmerican

Little Teddy did THAT ?


1,353 posted on 01/28/2016 7:33:03 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Right_in_Virginia

Ted Cruz - A CANADAdate for the Me2 Brigade


1,354 posted on 01/28/2016 7:33:06 PM PST by WTFOVR (I find myself exclaiming that expression quite often these days!)
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To: mojo114

I was hoping Carson would go to the Trump event too.


1,355 posted on 01/28/2016 7:33:12 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: ozarkgirl

She sounded young and said she’s changing to Republican and believes he can make America great again.

Sounds like another one is going to make it 10 for 10.

I keep waiting for the Dem that is upset but I don’t think anyone watching that could NOT be convinced what a great President he would be.


1,356 posted on 01/28/2016 7:33:45 PM PST by ozarkgirl
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To: Right_in_Virginia
If that was Cruz trying to be clever, he needs to keep his day job.

Whatever his day job is ...

1,357 posted on 01/28/2016 7:33:54 PM PST by stratboy
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To: mazda77

Brett sure was.

He and I had an email exchange after the first debate—he was in on all of it and I took him to task for it.

NEver have seen him the same way again.

Just like the I cant even stand Fox News anymore-and I invested 19 years in watching them.


1,358 posted on 01/28/2016 7:34:00 PM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: mojo114
Trumps event tonight was so uplifting. I feel calm and wonderfully proud of our Country. Much better than watching a political debate where I just felt agitated.

You speak exactly what I feel and think after the rally for our vets.

Trump GETS it and he loves America. It's so refreshing after what we've been through for so long.

1,359 posted on 01/28/2016 7:34:08 PM PST by mplsconservative
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To: datricker

This is the difference between a bunch of talkers and a doer.


1,360 posted on 01/28/2016 7:34:11 PM PST by bray (Trump/Palin 2016)
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