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Could Ted Cruz Be Disqualified?
Townhall.com ^ | January 28, 2016 | Steve Chapman

Posted on 01/28/2016 12:59:06 PM PST by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin

So according to your theory, the hundreds of people born in Saudi Arabia to American mothers and Saudi fathers are all Natural born citizens, eligible to run as POTUS? Really!


61 posted on 01/28/2016 2:16:11 PM PST by entropy12 (Trump - only candidate not in pockets of ultra-rich donor class. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!)
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To: tophat9000
if Cruz should win..with all the enemies he will have(or we hope he will have)....he WILL BE challenged on the birth point

if Trump should win..with all the enemies he will have(or we hope he will have)....he WILL BE challenged on his businesses record

if Bush should win..with all the enemies he will have(or we hope he will have)....he WILL BE challenged on the Iraq war point

if Carson should win..with all the enemies he will have(or we hope he will have)....he WILL BE challenged on his medical record

etc.

This is what the democrats do. All you are doing is bolstering the attack that the democrats will use.

62 posted on 01/28/2016 2:16:25 PM PST by kidd
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To: entropy12

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/01/12/why-won-t-mike-lee-endorse-bff-ted-cruz.html
Interesting article about why Mike Lee hasn’t run to endorse Ted Cruz


63 posted on 01/28/2016 2:17:40 PM PST by Mozilla
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To: Nero Germanicus

Jon Stewart?
You post on Free Republic?


64 posted on 01/28/2016 2:19:29 PM PST by kidd
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To: Bobby_Taxpayer
SCOTUS and lower courts have produced many decisions. 100% of them use a legal rule that a born abroad citizen is naturalized. The distinction doesn't depend on going through a naturalization proceeding or taking an oath. The distinction is whether a person is a citizen under the constitution (Art IV or 14th amendment), or under an Act of Congress. If one's US citizenship depends on an act of Congress, then one is a naturalized citizen.

All persons born abroad are presumed to be aliens. It is a rebuttable presumption. They (or their parents) bring their US citizenship claim to a competent tribunal, which adjudicates the claim. If the birth satisfies the statutory requirements, the person is deemed to be a (naturalized) citizen, and a Certificate is produced as evidence of the adjudication.

65 posted on 01/28/2016 2:20:18 PM PST by Cboldt
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66 posted on 01/28/2016 2:20:20 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Free Republic Caucus: vote daily / watch for the thread / Starts 01/20 midnight to midnight EST)
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To: nesnah

RE: I’m sure the Founders, when crafting the Constitution, said “yeah, born in Canada to a Cuban Father is OK with us”.

You forgot American mother.


67 posted on 01/28/2016 2:20:39 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: Nero Germanicus

Well, that’s a show stopper! :-) I have thought of this same issue myself.

I can hear the chirping of crickets now.

These people are morons.

Do any of you idiot birthers happen to be constitutional attorneys?

I didn’t think so...


68 posted on 01/28/2016 2:20:57 PM PST by diamond6 (Behold this Heart which has so loved men!" Jesus to St. Margaret Mary)
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To: Bobby_Taxpayer

Not to put too fine a point on this, but American citizenship is not “automatic” to a child born abroad. For example, had no one applied for US citizenship for Cruz, he would have zero proof that he was even eligible for such. Waving his mothers birth certificate at a border crossing or under the nose of an offical while trying to get a US passport would simply not work.

His mother would have had to do the following. There are links within the PDF to the other actions also required to attain that NOT-automatic US citizenship.

http://photos.state.gov/libraries/canada/303578/montreal/crba_eng.pdf

I think it is a very fair question to ask to see Cruzs CRBA. He has released his Canadian birth certificate, his mothers birth certificate and his renunciation document. But he has not released the proof that his US citizenship had been applied for and approved, and a CRBA issued.


69 posted on 01/28/2016 2:22:13 PM PST by Ladysforest
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To: Kaslin
No, he absolutely did NOT "clear up the question" !

Long before he decided to run for the presidency this year, he was saying the exact OPPOSITE of what he claims now and what he stated,first, means that he is is NOT a NBC!

70 posted on 01/28/2016 2:24:30 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Bobby_Taxpayer

You are right.

They are wrong.


71 posted on 01/28/2016 2:24:33 PM PST by diamond6 (Behold this Heart which has so loved men!" Jesus to St. Margaret Mary)
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To: Ladysforest
Since Cruz has not released his CRBA, we do not know if HE applied, his mother applied, or if anyone applied.

He was not required to apply for anything.

We do not know for certain IF or WHEN Ted Cruz attained his US citizenship via a legal act or process at the US consulate in Canada.

Cruz acquired his U.S. citizenship at birth by U.S. statute. No action by the U.S. Consulate in Canada was necessary.

72 posted on 01/28/2016 2:25:32 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: Kaslin
That raises two questions: Did she live in this country for the required amount of time? And can the Cruz family prove it?

Cruz proved it when he obtained a U.S. passport.

73 posted on 01/28/2016 2:27:27 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: Kaslin

Trump, believe it or not, is onto something. Cruz’s candidacy suffers a potentially fatal defect. If Cruz is nominated or elected, he could be disqualified. When Republican voters cast their ballots, they have to ask themselves: Is he worth the risk?


Not worth the risk.


74 posted on 01/28/2016 2:28:16 PM PST by samtheman (Elect Trump, Build Wall. End Censorship.)
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To: Behind the Blue Wall
You really are clueless and to help you educate I suggest you read this

On the Meaning of "Natural Born Citizen"

75 posted on 01/28/2016 2:29:40 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Nero Germanicus
And nobody know who is REALLY Obama's biological, father; however, IF it was Obama Sr. then Obama is NOT eligible to be president.

BOTH PARENTS MUST BE AMERICAN CITIZENS AT THE TIME OF THE CHILD'S BIRTH TO BE A NBC !

76 posted on 01/28/2016 2:31:37 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Cboldt

Who was naturalized, Cruz or his father?


77 posted on 01/28/2016 2:31:54 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: BuckeyeTexan

“Cruz acquired his U.S. citizenship at birth by U.S. statute. No action by the U.S. Consulate in Canada was necessary.”

You are correct, sir.

By their genius, armchair quarterback legal analysis, they would agree that a baby born to an illegal Russian couple in the United States (a potential Yuri) could be President of the United States, but a baby born to two American citizens’ couple who vacationed in Cancun and unexpectedly gave birth could not.

Yeah. That makes perfect sense.


78 posted on 01/28/2016 2:31:59 PM PST by diamond6 (Behold this Heart which has so loved men!" Jesus to St. Margaret Mary)
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To: Ladysforest

Where were all you birthers when the Kenyon born citizen was running for the same office?


79 posted on 01/28/2016 2:35:21 PM PST by Bobby_Taxpayer
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To: Crucial

300 billion people in America


Wow. That is 43 times more than all the people on planet Earth.

I had no idea.


80 posted on 01/28/2016 2:35:21 PM PST by samtheman (Elect Trump, Build Wall. End Censorship.)
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