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In His Own Words
Townhall.com ^ | January 29, 2016 | Erick Erickson

Posted on 01/29/2016 5:54:20 AM PST by Kaslin

"As far as single payer, it works in Canada, it works incredibly well in Scotland." "I would press for universal healthcare. ... I would put forward a comprehensive health care program and fund it with an increase in corporate taxes." "We must have universal healthcare."

"I hate the concept of it, but on a humanitarian basis, you have to [take in Syrian refugees]"

"I support the ban on assault weapons and I also support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun." "I hate the concept of guns." "The Republicans walk the NRA line and refuse even limited restrictions." "I probably identify more as a Democrat."

"Everybody's got to be covered. This is an un-Republican thing to say. I'm going to take care of everybody.... The government is going to pay for it." "I believe the Republicans are just too crazy right."

"I've very impressed by [Nancy Pelosi]. I like her a lot." "Hillary is a great friend of mine. Her husband is a great friend of mine."

"I'm a liberal on healthcare." "As far as single payer, it works incredibly well in Canada." "I am pro-choice in every respect."

Those are Donald Trump's words over the last number of years. Trump's position supporting a socialist healthcare scheme is about the only consistent position he has maintained.

In 2010, Donald Trump funded Democrat efforts to stop Republicans from taking back Congress. In 2014, he switched teams and supported the Republican Establishment against conservatives. Now he has tilted all the way to the right to support the anti-establishment conservatives he so recently hated as "crazy right."

Conservatives, particularly evangelicals, have lost their ability to discern wolves in sheep's clothing. Donald Trump calls himself a Christian, but has never asked God for forgiveness and sees no need to repent. Point that out to many an evangelical Christian and they will be quick to accuse you of judging Donald Trump. And if you point out that 1 Corinthians 5 makes clear that Christians are to judge anyone who calls himself a Christian, Trump defenders will proclaim they are not electing a pastor. Paul wrote, "[do not] associate with anyone who bears the name of brother if he is guilty of sexual immorality or greed, or is an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or swindler". The Bible also implores the faithful to seek out godly men for their leaders.

Pastors in the United States -- including Robert Jeffress of First Baptist Church in Dallas, Texas, an evangelical megachurch -- have hitched their wagons to Trump. Jeffress and other evangelical ministers seem convinced that the flawed vessel of Donald Trump can make America great again when they, as pastors, are supposed to be saving souls, not nations. Jeffress and his cohorts are seeking earthly powers to fight spiritual battles.

That men who spend their time wrapped in scripture and preaching in pulpits are quick to embrace a man who is on his third wife gets me thinking. This man is on his third wife -- after having cheated on his first wife with his second -- and says he has never asked God for forgiveness, cannot name a favorite book of the Bible and has no favorite passage of scripture. This suggests to me that many Christian preachers in this country have unsure moorings and let their homesickness for this country as they think they once knew it supersede their homesickness for the land to which they have not yet been, but to which they supposedly long.

As Screwtape wrote to Wormwood, "we want a man hag-ridden by the Future -- haunted by visions of an imminent heaven or hell upon earth -- ready to break the Enemy's commands in the present if by so doing we make him think he can attain the one or avert the other -- dependent for his faith on the success or failure of schemes whose end he will not live to see. We want a whole race perpetually in pursuit of the rainbow's end, never honest, nor kind, nor happy now, but always using as mere fuel wherewith to heap the altar of the future every real gift which is offered them in the Present." Many a pastor and Christian for Trump seems hag-ridden by the Future and ready to pursue a rainbow.


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KEYWORDS: obamacare; trump; trumpquotes
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To: Awgie

My God... How utterly pathetic.


61 posted on 01/29/2016 6:43:29 AM PST by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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To: cuban leaf

See my #54. The tag “conservative” doesn’t mean what it used to.


62 posted on 01/29/2016 6:43:31 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Kaslin
...and says he has never asked God for forgiveness, cannot name a favorite book of the Bible and has no favorite passage of scripture.

Well; ONE of the thieves nailed with Jesus got at least ONE of these right!

63 posted on 01/29/2016 6:44:01 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Kaslin; don-o

“They don’t care because they are ignorant and don’t realize that they are lead around by their noses.”

What you guys don’t seem to get is that Trump supporters don’t support him because he’s the most conservative. They support him because he’s the most pro-USA and most anti-establishment. And they trust he will get things done and do what he says he will do.


64 posted on 01/29/2016 6:45:04 AM PST by babygene (Make America Great Again)
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To: Gaffer

And yet what EE said was accurate. Imagine that.


65 posted on 01/29/2016 6:45:34 AM PST by Shimmer1 ("I like nonsense; it wakes up the brain cells." -Dr. Seuss)
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To: MNJohnnie
No what happened is the usual GOP water boys spend all their capital lying about Trump.

Then you should have no problem in listing the lies in this article. Your turn.

66 posted on 01/29/2016 6:45:39 AM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory. And He will NOT be mocked!)
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To: elhombrelibre
I know a man, who cheated on his first wife, cheated on his second, and has not cheated on his third.

I see him in the mirror occasionally while he shaves.

67 posted on 01/29/2016 6:46:33 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

And that would be: BIMBO!! STUPID!!! DUMMY!


68 posted on 01/29/2016 6:46:34 AM PST by Shimmer1 ("I like nonsense; it wakes up the brain cells." -Dr. Seuss)
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To: Gaffer; ManHunter
I don’t want to hear about this sacrosanct ‘conservative’ altar anymore. [...] Conservative as a label is just a crutch for those who are too staid or unwilling to see how we can break the chains and hold GOP Establishment has enslaved us with.

At the cost of Conservative principles... You will obviously end up with nothing, because you eschew the only thing that will fix anything.

69 posted on 01/29/2016 6:47:02 AM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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To: Kaslin

Piss off, Eric.

Your time is done.

L


70 posted on 01/29/2016 6:47:27 AM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Shimmer1

Okay. Have it your way. Right on up until after Super Tuesday and you see what happens. The question is “what will you do?” will you vote for Trump if he is nominee?”

I’ve said I’ll vote for Trump in my primary, but if Cruz gets the nomination I’ll proudly vote for him in the general election. Will you do the same for Trump?


71 posted on 01/29/2016 6:47:48 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer
I find him dishonest, boastful, angry and rude, mean and coarse. If our spouse, our pastors, our children acted like he acts, would we find that delightful?? The minute someone merely disagrees with him, he attacks and denigrates them personally, he is a bully. He doesn't have the capacity to address the issue(s) only attack the person.

Can I find someone with conservative beliefs that doesn't act in this manner? YES.
72 posted on 01/29/2016 6:50:02 AM PST by Shimmer1 ("I like nonsense; it wakes up the brain cells." -Dr. Seuss)
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To: Gaffer; cuban leaf
See my #54. The tag “conservative” doesn’t mean what it used to.

then what are you doing here?

73 posted on 01/29/2016 6:50:10 AM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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To: Gaffer
Erick was the one who went "ad hominem" when he withdrew Trump's invitation to his own Red State Gathering,

And you know why he did. It was because he smeared a former POW, that's why.

74 posted on 01/29/2016 6:50:36 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Gaffer

Those that believe in CONSERVATIVE values are who I’m talking about. An I’d you want to argue word definitions, they are really classical liberals. Google it.


75 posted on 01/29/2016 6:50:40 AM PST by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: roamer_1

I’ll vote for Cruz in the general election if he wins the nomination. Would you do the same for Trump if he does? That’s the only question I have for you.


76 posted on 01/29/2016 6:50:50 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: don-o

Same applies to you Don-o. Waste all your time being an ass so now no one is listening.


77 posted on 01/29/2016 6:51:46 AM PST by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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To: Gaffer
Why is his obsession to be in the news so important.

He's a pundit. He gets paid to put his writing out there. Is this a shock?

78 posted on 01/29/2016 6:52:20 AM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory. And He will NOT be mocked!)
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To: Gaffer; Shimmer1
I think that ALL of us will vote for whomever the Republican nominee is.

NONE of them are as bad as the deceived (or deceiving) MORMON that was thrust in our faces last time around.

79 posted on 01/29/2016 6:52:21 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Kaslin

Neither you or any of the others that are all over me about my response to your OP will answer this.

“I’ll vote for Cruz in the general election if he wins the nomination. Would you do the same for Trump if he does? That’s the only question I have for you.”


80 posted on 01/29/2016 6:52:36 AM PST by Gaffer
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