Posted on 01/30/2016 4:20:28 AM PST by ironman
CNN's Drew Griffin investigates Ted Cruz's eligibility.
Video ran on Anderson Cooper 360.
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Good one WhiskeyX - I would add (opposite of some) that
you can’t lose NBC status , but you can lose citizenship status.
I wonder if part of the issue was a kind of mind-slop between theology and the laws of Caesar.
Ted’s dad was virtually fanatically committed to the idea that Ted was going to be some notable figure. I used to hear that as “name it claim it” theology. Can’t work, you can’t twist God’s arm in that manner. Even hopeless mystics can’t do that.
It’s just a mess.
But God’s answer might well look like, one Heavenly Father trumps one earthly dad, no pun intended.
“....young Ted talks about his goal being world domination.”......
If Teddy wants a one world government, I’m scratching him off my list.
The Court found that if one’s citizenship was gained by act of Congress, it could also be lost thereby.
NBC status for a president would put him (or her) past the possibility of such shenanigans.
There is only one way Ted Cruz can be America's president; he must be elected.
I like Cinci, she is good to back up her points. I saved a ton if good information the other day from one of her threads.
Is this related to the “dominion theology” issue which Ted’s dad pushed, but Ted has not, to my knowledge, expressed a position on?
This represents a dangerous theological presumption on the part of the one who does it. It was enough of an issue that Jesus rejected Satan’s come-on about it — you could get the whole world now, but you’d have to bow down to him. To be fair we ought to be asking Ted his take on it. If he rejects the error, we’re fine on that front.
” and both of his parents were citizens at the time of his birth”
Nope.
Courtesy ping... to post 7.
His mother was naturalized before he was born. Look it up.
Irrelevant trivia thorough. Cruz is still naturalized, and that's the only point that matters for his eligibility to hold the office of president. The details of evidence that got him evidence of citizenship don't matter. The Canada BC coupled with the law leads directly to "not NBC."
That isn’t what I read.
Your scenario is precisely why the founders insisted on natural born citizen.
Born here of citizen parents.
No other possible citizenship or loyalty.
Natural born comedian.
What about Marco Rubio? This dude is an Anchor Baby. If Marco wins than alot of Anchor Babies can run for president. His parents were not US Citizens when he was born. Where is the attack on him?
” I would add (opposite of some) that
you can’t lose NBC status , but you can lose citizenship status.”
Thanks for the kind compliment, but unfortunately a person can lost natural born citizen status as demonstrated by Michelle Bachmann and Malvina Stone.
Malvina Stone was a natural born citizen of the U.S. living in Vermont when she married William Arthur in Dunham, Quebec, Canada. They lived and had a daughter in Dunham, Quebec, Canada before moving across the border into Vermont. While they were living in Vermont, she gave birth to Chester Arthur on 5 October 1829. At the time of his birth in 1829, Chester Arthur’s father, William Arthur, was a British citizen, who did not naturalize as a U.S. citizen until many years later. Chester Arthur’s mother, Malvina, expatriated and lost her natural born U.S. citizenship when she married a British citizen husband. Because his father was a British citizen and his mother became a British citizen and lost her natural born U.S. citizenship upon marriage, Chester Arthur was born with his parents’ British citizenship and acquired no U.S. citizenship at all. There is no known record of Chester Arthur naturalizing as a U.S. citizen.
In the case of Michelle Bachmann, she was a natural born citizen of the U.S. who married a Swiss citizen, acquired a Swiss passport, acquired dual citizenship with dual allegiance, and acquired thereby a divided loyalty that invalidated her sole allegiance to the United States from birth that defines status as a natural born citizen of the U.S. Michelle Bachmann is now a citizen of the U.S., but she is no longer a natural born citizen of the U.S. due to her obligations of allegiance to a foreign citizen husband and period of foreign citizenship alienating a part of her sole allegiance to the United States.
Hope that explanation is understandable and helpful.
Ping to # 34 and # 61 .
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