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Op-Ed: Memo to idiots cheering Bernie and Hillary
Arutz Sheva ^ | 2/5/16 | Jack Engelhard

Posted on 02/05/2016 9:02:41 AM PST by Lera

Communism sucks. Socialism does too. Ask the people who survived both systems. As Fidel came to power in 1959, how many Americans slid onto rafts to get into Cuba? Or took the last ship to Havana? I'll need actual names.

Attention to all you college kids out there so starry-eyed for Bernie - are you serious?

But you're young. Far and wide you've been educated by Liberal pro-BDS professors, so you're not expected to know too much except that the two most reliable beacons of tolerance and liberty, the United States and Israel, are on the wrong side of history.

Pure brainwashing, but you will grow up. There is no excuse however for people already grown up who still cheer for Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton.

You really think socialism is okay?

Let's be clear. There is no difference between socialists, liberals and progressives. They are all Communists, or shades of the same mentality.

Either way, it's about taking from the rich and giving it to the poor in order to make everybody equal, meaning equally miserable. It's also about a one-man show. No checks. No balances. Like Obama visiting a Baltimore mosque to offer Muslims his love and concern.

But Obama visited no synagogue to share Jewish grief for loved ones being slain in Israel, most recently the 19-year-old woman of valor Hadar Cohen.

Nor has Mr. Obama ever shared concern for Jews being tormented on campus.

One man, one rule, can be so arbitrary.

Communism sucks. Ask the people who lived there. Call it by its more pleasant and more acceptable name, socialism; same answer. Unbearable.

The only people who win under that system are the medaled guys on the Kremlin balcony waving down to the impoverished suckers.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: arabnationalism; bernie; communism; democrats; hillary; islamicsocialism; liberalagenda; obama; rop; totalitarianism; worldwar3
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To: Olog-hai

And no, the USA forgot the “leading” part (show a man that we have given a fish, how to fish) and thought itself virtuous with the “driving” part (just starve him till he somehow miraculously gets the idea, let’s not concern ourselves as to how).

That left a huge gap. Human nature is craving to see it filled, and why not? God created it.


21 posted on 02/05/2016 9:25:08 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Vic S

Stalin was the Nationalist. In fact most Russians don’t even see him as a Communist, but more like an “Ivan the Terrible”, a Czar who was ruthless, but effective.


22 posted on 02/05/2016 9:25:22 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Vic S
Lenin was an internationalist; hence the Soviet Union. Stalin was the one who came up with “socialism in one country” as a doctrine.

Besides, declaring Lenin a nationalist effectively makes him the first national socialist, before the advent of the infamous German system that caused World War II. And yes, Trotsky would have been just as bad; he merely was openly internationalist.
23 posted on 02/05/2016 9:27:22 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: gattaca

Yep. “Democratic Socialist” de-fangs the argument because the cretins think they can always vote them out if things aren’t going well.

They should study Maduro’s rear-guard actions in Venezuela.


24 posted on 02/05/2016 9:29:15 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: HiTech RedNeck

It has zero to do with socialism, which is based on hatred and abolition of the family, the complete opposite of God who is love and family.

And no, God does not insist on total dependence on Him or else no work would occur; hence the command to “work out your salvation with fear and trembling” in Philippians 2:12.


25 posted on 02/05/2016 9:30:28 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Lera

Communism is indeed good - for the elites. I once was having a discussion with someone who thought communism/socialism was better than our system. When I pointed out all the problems in the past century with it and all the millions of people slaughtered as a result, his response was that “it just hasn’t been done right yet”. When I pointed out that if communists came to power in the US he might be killed, he was unfazed. You see, everything would be fine because he expected to be one of the elites. No concern for the masses who could be slaughtered because they opposed a totalitarian takeover.

This happened quite a few years ago before I thought it was even possible for American citizens to vote in communists/socialists under the umbrella of the Democrat party.


26 posted on 02/05/2016 9:31:19 AM PST by Nevadan
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Your using socialistic propaganda is not going to work. The USA’s ideal is family-based society (which is the only real society), where nobody “starve(s) until he somehow miraculously gets the idea” because knowledge is passed down from parents to children. Socialism is for abolition of the family, where nobody “gets” anything that the state does not want them to get due to total slavery thereunto.


27 posted on 02/05/2016 9:32:53 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Lera
Pure brainwashing, but you will grow up.

Sadly, many will not grow up. They remain infantile and bitter for the rest of their lives.
28 posted on 02/05/2016 9:35:14 AM PST by Thorliveshere
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To: Olog-hai

People with your mindset most unfortunately misread that phrase. Philippians is a book of joy and the exhortation is to appreciate how awesome the salvation work of God is. As a pastor I very dearly respect put it, God works it in, and then we work it out. I would add, that the more we appreciate it, the more we will work it out. It is as a burning in the bones, to use another biblical metaphor.

Total dependence on God means a total motivation to work in the way that God works. You are still thinking half worldly.

And yes socialism has everything to do with it. Socialism is a lie applied to the original principle. Bring back the original principle and the desire for the lie fades away and disappears. The prodigal is eating pig pods because he has no proper food.

Your mis-take on the principle, I boldly posit, is heavily pride based. You would “work out your salvation with fear and trembling” lest you go to the ignominy of hell.


29 posted on 02/05/2016 9:36:41 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Olog-hai

Look at reality now. Look how faith has dropped the ball. You see the opening for socialism. I have only described it. I have not advocated it. We can’t just put our fingers in our ears when our enemies speak and go la la la la, we can’t hear you... because the reason that lies get traction can point out truths that are very unflattering to us. Our enemies can in that sense educate us.


30 posted on 02/05/2016 9:39:00 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Lera
Communism sucks. Socialism does too. Ask the people who survived both systems.

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Yes, they do suck but to 99% of the people socialism = Denmark. Tony Blair, who got a standing ovation by the W. Bush era GOP congress is a socialist - leader of the Labour party. So to most people in the USA socialism is what they have in Sweden or Finland. Not exactly North Korea.

31 posted on 02/05/2016 9:39:24 AM PST by Trumpinator ("Are you Batman?" the boy asked. "I am Batman," Trump said.)
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To: Lera

bfl


32 posted on 02/05/2016 9:41:02 AM PST by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: Olog-hai

One death is a tragedy; one million is a statistic.

Joseph Stalin


33 posted on 02/05/2016 9:44:44 AM PST by CrazyIvan (Hey Pope Francis- The Gospels are not Matthew, Marx, Luke and John.)
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To: CrazyIvan

That bespeaks the state-proud mindset that helps socialism burgeon.

Long ago having given up tenderness of heart, we don’t see this as a million tragedies.


34 posted on 02/05/2016 9:46:57 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: CrazyIvan

And there are other incarnations of state pride as well. Just to give a caution to folks like O-H. Once you have one kind of state pride, it’s easier to morph into another.


35 posted on 02/05/2016 9:48:10 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
No, socialism has absolutely nothing to do with the "original principle" whatsoever. It is rehashed feudalism with state atheism, where the few at the top distribute crumbs to the ones below; the complete opposite of God's principles and the very thing that Jesus spoke out against many times, not to mention the very thing that Jeremiah spoke out against in chapter 34 of his book. Ancient Israel was never organized in such a fashion. To be frank, not even republican Rome was so organized, nor imperial Rome in the beginning.

One might notice that socialism never proclaims liberty. God does, in many scriptures.
We say à la guerre comme à la guerre; we do not promise any freedom nor any democracy.

Friedrich Engels

We must hate. Hatred is the basis of communism. Children must be taught to hate their parents if they are not communist.

Lenin
Such thinking has as much to do with the principle of helping others as Christ has a concord with Belial.
36 posted on 02/05/2016 9:48:48 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: dfwgator
Maybe it wouldn’t be such a bad thing to have Bernie as POTUS, so that people can experience the pain of socialism first-hand. That will cure them of their love of socialism.

Except that (and I am sure you're aware) once a country goes down the Socialism/Communism path, it is very hard to get back to the ways of freedom. It usually requires a bloody civil war or coup to get it done, and those in power will fight like mad and throw everything they have at the people in order to retain that power.

I am sure that both Clinton and Sanders would act accordingly.

37 posted on 02/05/2016 9:49:56 AM PST by hoagy62 (Timid Men prefer the 'Calm of Despotism' to the 'Tempestuous Sea of Liberty'. ~ T. Jefferson)
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To: hoagy62
Except that (and I am sure you're aware) once a country goes down the Socialism/Communism path, it is very hard to get back to the ways of freedom.

That ship sailed a long time ago.

38 posted on 02/05/2016 9:50:49 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Faith has not dropped the ball; lack of faith has, hence the intrusion of satanic counterfeits for the umpteenth time in man’s history. Jesus didn’t ask if He’d find faith when He comes again in vain.


39 posted on 02/05/2016 9:53:34 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: dfwgator
Well...I kind of disagree.

We're not yet at a state of being like, say, Cuba, or Ceausescu's Romania, or Venezuela. As long as the people still have the right to say what they want, and do what they want (within reason) without 'State Security' showing up at 2am and busting your door in, I believe there's still a chance to get things back the way they are supposed to be.

40 posted on 02/05/2016 9:56:11 AM PST by hoagy62 (Timid Men prefer the 'Calm of Despotism' to the 'Tempestuous Sea of Liberty'. ~ T. Jefferson)
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