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Cruz: Rubio had all the advantages ... and still lost
Politico ^ | 2/21/2016 | ELIZA COLLINS

Posted on 02/21/2016 6:37:30 PM PST by 20yearsofinternet

Ted Cruz may have placed behind Marco Rubio in South Carolina but he's spinning the primary as a bigger loss for the Florida senator.

Rubio was "endorsed by a very popular governor of the state, very popular senator, very popular congressman, all the establishment circled their wagons around Marco and yet he still only came in second after his campaign promised everyone they were going to win the state," Cruz said on CBS' "Face the Nation" on Sunday.

Cruz was referring to endorsements that Rubio received from Gov. Nikki Haley, Sen. Tim Scott and Rep. Trey Gowdy.

Cruz added: "You know, frankly, if I'd had done that in Iowa - look, in Iowa we had the heavy hitters come behind our campaign. If we'd have come in second or third, you guys would have barbecued us for having all the big hitters behind us and not winning it."

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida; US: Iowa; US: New York; US: Ohio; US: South Carolina; US: Texas
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To: RKBA Democrat
Speaking of Florida...


41 posted on 02/21/2016 7:01:52 PM PST by 20yearsofinternet (Border: Close it. Illegals: Deport. Muslims: Ban 'em. Economy: Liberate it. PC: Kill it. Trump 2016)
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To: 20yearsofinternet

FWIW http://dcwhispers.com/is-glenn-beck-destroying-the-cruz-campaign/


42 posted on 02/21/2016 7:03:55 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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LAUGH BREAK Some are foolishly saying, a victory in his home state of Texas gives Cruz the big mo he lost in SC and NH.....but Cruz is looking more and more like ex-Texas Gov Perry---two stealth candidates trusting Texans hardly knew.

At first, Cruz (like Perry) looked good....prez material, even. Then candidate Cruz (like Perry) began admitting things that trusting Texans knew nothing about.

Perry shocked his constituents when he admitted in a debate that he was using trusting Texans tax dollars to give illegals in-state tuition. Perry also installed the country's first Sharia Court in Texas....active to this day.

Cruz heaped on the surprises:

<><> I didn't know I was a Canadian citizen when I ran for the Senate until the media exposed it.

<><> I told trusting Texas voters wifey and I were liquidating family assets so I could get into the Senate.

<><> I didnt know I was supposed to tell the FEC I borrowed over a million from my Wall Street margin accounts to fund my campaign.

<><> I told Mark Levin the borrowed funds were used for campaign ads....but I didn't report this as required.

<><> And so on and so forth, ad infinitum, ad nauseaum.

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BACKSTORY Cruz/s Senate election fairy tale has become legendary......portraying himself to trusting Texans as a scrappy populist putting everything on the line to overcome a wealthy establishment opponent.

He was whining in the media, telling trusting Texans that he, and his faithful little wife (a $700,000 globalist lawyer employed by G/S), were forced to liquidate their entire family savings (of slightly more than $1 million) to fuel a come-from-behind win in the Republican primary.

NOW TRUSTING TEXANS LEARN Cruz did not liquidate family assets.....he got his hands on over a million dollars from his hefty margin accounts at G/S and Citibank......and did not disclose this on FEC reports (to keep it a secret from trusting Texans).

Cruz did not disclose loans on FEC reports (required by law) b/c Texans would have discovered he was not the aw-shucks rube he pretended to be. He continued the rube act in order to milk votes from trusting Texans.

At the same time, he also did not disclose he was a dual Canadian citizen......the Harvard-educated lawyer w/ two Ivy League degrees said he didn't know. When the Dallas Morning News published his Canadian birth certificate, Cruz put trusting Texans through the charade of renouncing his Canadian citizenship.....even though Canada did not recognize dual citizenship at that time.

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Cruz (like Perry) didn't know when to keep his mouth shut. Political blunders piled up ... it was one disaster after another. The dumb moves made will be required learning.... what not to do...... for any candidate!

43 posted on 02/21/2016 7:04:10 PM PST by Liz (SAFE PLACE? A liberal's mind. Nothing's there. Nothing can penetrate it.)
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To: 20yearsofinternet

Meanwhile donor dollars pour in, including Super Pacs


44 posted on 02/21/2016 7:04:10 PM PST by stocksthatgoup (Trump for me. I want to see Hillary, Bernie or any demoncrap crushed)
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To: RKBA Democrat
Ted can FIX it!

LOL

45 posted on 02/21/2016 7:05:39 PM PST by Karl Spooner
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To: for-q-clinton

I don’t think that many Dems voted for Trump, I think people who have been suffering in this economy and rarely if never vote went for Trump.

Like Trump says at the rallies “if the unemployment rate was really 5% would we have 15,000 people here”

The impressive thing is even though the delegates were to be allocated proportionally, Trump won ALL 50 Delegates.
This took place in a State when the Governor, 2 Senators and the most famous Congressman supported Trump’s apponents.

Trump got help from the Lt. Gov. nice guy, smart guy, he went with the winner.

Haley or whatever her Indian name is, was a big loser.
At best Marco got 3 to 5 % from all the endorsements.

All those super Tuesday southern and western states ain’t going for “Rubio the Amnesty King”.

Look at the RCP polling for the March 1st Super Tuesday

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/march1GOP.html

I see Trump’s name a lot, Cruz holds a lead in Texas, and I believe SC. and NV. will have changed that too.

If Trump wins Texas and Florida , then, Rubio and Cruz are toast and Trump wins.


46 posted on 02/21/2016 7:07:36 PM PST by Zenjitsuman (A)
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To: Patton@Bastogne

We get screwed every 4 years by the primary system set up by the GOPe designed to eliminate all the true conservative candidates. It’s working again, Trump is taking advantage of the crossover votes and liberal states like NH.


47 posted on 02/21/2016 7:09:02 PM PST by Clean_Sweep
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To: Patton@Bastogne
All that being said, I'll also say that it's a "mathematical certainty" that Donald Trump ... benefited by South Carolina's open primary where many (exact number unknown) Code Pink, 9-11 Truther Lunatics, Abortion Mill Planned Parenthood supporters and Black Lives Matter "Community Organizers" voted for ... The Donald. And whether they openly admit it or not ... EVERY Donald Trump supporter (with any intelligence) quietly knows that I speak "da truth" on this subject.

I was screamed down and literally erased for saying that Hillary shills are posing as Cruzbots on FR.

In my defense, I post the above quote as exhibit "A."

48 posted on 02/21/2016 7:09:07 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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49 posted on 02/21/2016 7:09:07 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (Get Ready)
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To: 20yearsofinternet

Of course they split the vote. Trump gets 35% of the vote and wins, which I have no problem with that is how it works, but the 60+% that didn’t vote for Trump was divide among all the others.

The question now is how many of those who didn’t vote for Trump second choice is Trump I would say not many, more importantly how many of them have been so turned off by Trump and his supporters would rather vote for the Anti-Christ than vote for Trump?

Trump is a type of person you either like or hate there is very little middle ground.


50 posted on 02/21/2016 7:09:30 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: 20yearsofinternet

If it wasn’t for Trump, Cruz would be 3rd or 4th and fading. He might have a shot in Texas but other than that, at this point, all of us conservatives would be in despair and fighting over whether we could support Rubio or Kasich or whoever the GOPe had gotten to the top. (Not me, by the way).


51 posted on 02/21/2016 7:10:08 PM PST by Defiant (RINOs are leaders of a party without voters. Trump/Cruz are leaders of voters without a party.)
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To: Zenjitsuman

“I think people who have been suffering in this economy and rarely if never vote went for Trump”

This is spot on. This is a dynamic.


52 posted on 02/21/2016 7:10:11 PM PST by ShivaFan
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To: proust

Yeah, who would even want to win Iowa these days? Winning there is like a kiss of death in recent years.

I actually don’t think Cruz and Rubio lost - it’s more like Donald Trump won.


53 posted on 02/21/2016 7:10:43 PM PST by Baladas
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To: wideawake

Cruz even lies to himself.


54 posted on 02/21/2016 7:12:24 PM PST by over3Owithabrain
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Ted Cruz Loses Every County In SC Election-Including the Staunchly Evangelical Counties
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | 2-20-2016 | sundance / FR Posted by smoothsailing

In August of 2015, against considerable backlash, we stood firm on a fundamental position that Senator Ted Cruz did not have a pathway, a roadmap, to victory in the 2016 GOP presidential primary. Despite the fundamentally sound reasoning for our prediction, which was entirely based on congressional district by district analytics, our position drew an immense amount of criticism and even a quick response from the Cruz campaign itself (Brian Phillips).

Unfortunately, South Carolina/s results vindicate a massive amount of historical research. There simply is no pathway to victory when you rely almost exclusively on proselytizing as an electoral strategy:

REMINDER It/s not personal, it is simply a factual reality. The Ted Cruz Road Map is non-existent; and beyond the SEC primary states there is little to no organization at all. Nothing in the state of Florida. The campaign is NOT what most people have been led to believe it is. We strongly urge people to do their own research and to connect their own dots. The campaign will NOT stop sending you donation requests, that much is certain.

55 posted on 02/21/2016 7:13:42 PM PST by Liz (SAFE PLACE? A liberal's mind. Nothing's there. Nothing can penetrate it.)
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To: Lagmeister

“Oh that preacher Cruz, always water into whine.”
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Cute! I like that phrase....

But, Cruz is not whining...he is stating facts...

In Iowa, the very popular governor and millions of $$$ in negative ads from the ethanol lobby fired their best shots against Cruz...he won, although Trump folks still don’t accept that!

In SC, the popular governor, a popular Senator, and a popular congressman came out for Rubio...in this state Rubio did have all of the advantage and he eked out a distant 2nd place to Trump, with Cruz less than 1,000 votes behind...

Congratulations to Trump for this very solid win....the top three appeared to split the evangelical vote, which means that the Falwell Junior endorsement is really helping Trump and/or that there are other issues driving the primary besides religious fervor, probably a bit of both...

What it does mean for Cruz is that he better get his act together and cut out all the shenanigans , which is molding a narrative that is hurting his campaign. As a Cruz supporter, I have contacted the campaign about this...I do not believe this stuff is being directed by Cruz, but it certainly reflects upon him...the campaign does not need to act this way, his strong conservative message will carry the day!


56 posted on 02/21/2016 7:13:52 PM PST by HoosierWordsmith
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To: ShivaFan

Yep. And the Cruz True Believers refuse to understand that some people see Cruz as just another guy who plays the same games and will do the same backstabby stuff once he gets in the big chair. He already tried to do it in the Senate, but for some reason, they buy his weasely mealy-mouthed excuses.

Trump is a risk, sure, but at least he’s not the kind of “risk” where you can be 100% sure of the outcome. That’s how I view Cruz at this point. I sincerely hope his supporters come around, but I know that the ones that ardently insist that Trump only wins because a secret army of Democrats is voting in the primaries, or everyone who supports Trump is a paid shill, are never going to come around. Ted is the Keeper of the Sacred Principles to them, and no one else will ever do.


57 posted on 02/21/2016 7:16:12 PM PST by 20yearsofinternet (Border: Close it. Illegals: Deport. Muslims: Ban 'em. Economy: Liberate it. PC: Kill it. Trump 2016)
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To: Baladas

SC was a rout by Trump, not so much the 10% edge in vote but the consistent across the state strength. He won most demographics, including Cruz’s prized Evangelicals.

I guess the dirty way Cruz won got sympathy for nice guy Doc Carson, and votes for straight talking Donald J. Trump.

People like that he isn’t PC, and if the Pope attacks him he doesn’t back down. So rare to have a “Republican With Guts”. Most republicans are weenies.


58 posted on 02/21/2016 7:17:58 PM PST by Zenjitsuman (A)
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Image: Donald Trump Image: Marco Rubio Image: Ted Cruz Image: Jeb Bush Image: John Kasich Image: Ben Carson

59 posted on 02/21/2016 7:21:55 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: Neu Pragmatist
the big question is , what does Levin have to say about Cruz's loss ? How will he spin it now ?

That Cruz really won in SC and that anyone who disagrees with him is delusional and an idiot :-)

60 posted on 02/21/2016 7:23:59 PM PST by TheCipher (Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself. Mark Twain)
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