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WOMEN IN COMBAT: A TERRIBLE IDEA WHOSE TIME HAS COME?
Frontpagemag.com ^ | 2-26-2016 | Matthew Vadum

Posted on 02/29/2016 8:42:13 AM PST by servo1969

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1 posted on 02/29/2016 8:42:13 AM PST by servo1969
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To: servo1969

They don’t have the upper body strength to pick up and run with a 200 pound man. They will get themselves and other marines and soldiers killed. Much less what will be in store for them if they get captured.

This is Obama trying to emasculate our armed forces.


2 posted on 02/29/2016 8:46:34 AM PST by Blackirish
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To: servo1969

BFL


3 posted on 02/29/2016 8:49:47 AM PST by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: Blackirish

In hand to hand combat, the enemy doesn’t need to waste bullets or dull his knife blade to totally slaughter US ‘female combat soldiers.’


4 posted on 02/29/2016 8:51:53 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: servo1969; Blackirish
LETTER SENT TO MY COGRESSMAN AND ALL SENATORS (December 2015)(AND WILL SEND EVERY YEAR FROM NOW ON)

The Tragedy of Women in Combat

Ash Carter’s announcement demonstrates this Administration’s attachment to a political ideology fueled by arrogance and premeditated ignorance. Any long period of study and vigorous debate has been among those mutually supportive creatures that have metastasized throughout the military to serve a social agenda bringing future needless devastation. Most of the points I highlight about women in combat arose first when the decision was made to do away with DADT. A lot of good men are going to have to die in years to come to cover up this disaster.

This tragedy of women in combat provides another reason I now always council men to never enter the armed forces. Social engineering that amalgamates feminist ideals everywhere has now become the over arching imperative to which all operational capabilities must submit.

However, combat operations too often demand unpredictably and unimaginably exhausting brutality to achieve victory. Therefore, only the highest physical abilities and most severe restrictions on human emotions and behaviors can foster the required high morale, good order and discipline, and unit cohesion required.

Human sexuality simply cannot intrude into this sub-culture where only those displaying the greatest savagery and endurance can hope to win. Resorting to war for national defense entails the ultimate Olympics of conflict occurring at the bleeding edge of existence where the unbelievable becomes the possible. In this meritocracy there is much less excuse for merging men and women into these struggles than exists for the athletic competitions held every four years.

Combat forms personnel into small, rigid, task oriented units that can then descend into a cacophony of shrieking, sobbing, crashing dissonance to orchestrate the killing of other humans without hate or joy. These people continuously face extraordinary stress and survive by acquiring the wisdom of wild animals that live in the moment without schedules for eating and sleeping.. At the point of collision, they undertake operations requiring sacrificial, primitive and intimate actions. Such environments are inherently chaotic, barbaric, and brittle. They can be overcome only by trained killers subject to a totalitarian leadership and narrow focus unimaginable for those who see any opportunity for the social alchemy popular in civilian life.

The regimental combat teams for infantry, mechanized and armored units are now the playthings of bureaucrats committed to equal opportunity and affirmative action. They are dismissive of warriors enduring the brutal carnage imperative for triumph. Institutional memories no longer exist for fighting ferocious, shrewd enemies such as the Germans, Japanese, Chinese, and North Vietnamese, who utilized a full array of modern weapons. If one notes the ribbons on any senior officer’s uniform, they show they fought only Arabs the Israelis beat three times at 20 to 1 odds. Such people now question the necessity for high standards which do not obfuscate or allow inferior female performance.

Women not only do not belong at the pointy end of the spear, but should not be holding it to the extent they intrude into the fellowship of combat arms which depends upon savagery for victory. As this tragedy unfolds I will remember the quote that, "Men sleep peacefully in their beds at night because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf"

All Combat Roles Now Open to Women, Pentagon Says
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pentagon-nbc-news-all-combat-roles-now-openomen-n473581?cid=eml_nbn_20151203

The Greatest Lie Ever Told - Female Rangers
http://usdefensewatch.com/2015/12/the-greatest-lie-ever-told-female-rangers/

Why Marines, unlike Army and Navy, are so against women in combat
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Military/2015/0911/Why-Marines-unlike-Army-and-Navy-are-so-against-women-in-combat?cmpid=editorpicks&google_editors_picks=true

General Martin E. Dempsey
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Dempsey

Gen. Dempsey: If Women Can’t Meet Military Standard, Pentagon Will Ask ‘Does It Really Have to Be That High?’
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/gen-dempsey-if-women-can-t-meet-military-standard-pentagon-will-ask-does-it-really-have

Coed Combat Units - A bad idea on all counts
http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/coed-combat-units_697822.html

You’re In the New Army Now
http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2013/01/youre-in-new-army-now.html
Marine Corps boot camp, job titles to be gender neutral by April
http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/story/military/2016/01/06/marine-corps-boot-camp-job-titles-gender-neutral-april/78351756/
Be sure to check out the photo of Secretary of the Navy Ray Mabus. He looks to me like someone who should be holding personnel seminars at Health and Human Services. I would not want to have anything to do with the gooey product resulting from the fulfillment of his vision. I think it is time to retire the service dress blues for a mauve uniform with a pink stripe and fashionable French berets. Considering the defense secretary claimed a long period of study and vigorous debate, I maintain discussion was among those mutually supportive creatures that have metastasized throughout the military to serve the LGBT and feminist social agendas. Most of the points I highlight below about women in combat first arose when the decision was imposed to do away with DADT. A lot of good men are going to have to die in years to come to cover up this needless disaster.

The Great Social Experiment Takes the Field - In the War of 2020
http://usdefensewatch.com/2016/02/the-great-social-experiment-takes-the-field-in-the-war-of-2020/

5 posted on 02/29/2016 8:54:17 AM PST by Retain Mike
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To: Blackirish

I was serving when the military thought it was a good idea back then and so they put a woman with us in the mountain and Arctic warfare based in the Arctic of Norway under the NATO AMF/L.

What a frigging disaster that was.
She could not carry her equipment . It was minus 30 air temps and down to -70 with bad wind chills and when she wanted to go to the bathroom we all had to make special circumstances for her , but the problem was added due to us being above the tree line where it is just show and mountains.
Course it was that time of the month for her which was a problem because her carrying her used tampons left a smell for animals.

Lets say she had none of those problems and she could ski carrying 120 pounds for over 20 miles a day.

The problem also arose because half the men wanted to carry her equipment in order to flirt with her and she certainly knew how to flirt.

It broke down unit cohesiveness and even back at camp it caused a couple of fights between guys.

Not seeing a woman for 3 months at a time, not making certain jokes, her flirting and some men flirting back broke down cohesiveness , but also morale.

It is the dumbest idea gong to think women should be in a combat unit role in combat.

To add. We have different showers and bunks right?
Why?
Because men and women are attracted to each other.
]So why the hell do we have homosexual men sharing showers and bunks with other men who these homosexuals might be attracted too?

This country has gone nuts and cannot think for themselves. The country goes by the headlines on the fornt page or the headlines off the news media.
Hollywood gives out a narrative that a woman is beating up 5 men at a time. and the dopes believe this crap

Now lets say


6 posted on 02/29/2016 8:54:28 AM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: servo1969

The AR in the photo is nearly as big as the women holding it. AR rifles are that long. She must be tiny. Guess she’ll make a smaller target.


7 posted on 02/29/2016 8:55:02 AM PST by pleasenotcalifornia
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To: servo1969

Anybody seen what the Yazidi women and Israeli women do with the weapons they are given?


8 posted on 02/29/2016 8:55:43 AM PST by redhead (NO GROUND TO THE DEVIL! Remember BENGHAZI! Use WEAPONIZED PRAYER. NOW.)
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To: servo1969

Let the militant lesbians and militant feminists into the combat roles.

That’s one way to get rid of them!


9 posted on 02/29/2016 8:55:45 AM PST by MeganC (The Republic of The United States of America: 7/4/1776 to 6/26/2015 R.I.P.)
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To: servo1969

In the irrational dehumanized Marxist “utopian” totally CONTROLLED world, where children are conditioned to believe boys are girl and girls are boys, and babies are bought, sold, and killed, and created with no biological mother and father united in sacred matrimony ——human beings and Life becomes just a meaningless object for the State to control—a “Means to an End” with no meaning, Free Will, Individual characteristics or sexual identity, and no absolutely no individual worth—just “group” “rights” and no significance or power as an individual human being (which is the BASIS of our Constitution—individual Natural Rights from God only—never the State).

The irrational concepts that male and female are not unique differences (that radical egalitarianism so loved by irrational Marxists who have to reduce man to interchangeable drones-—to destroy Free Will, Reality for children has to erase ALL differences so they can force little babies to believe the most irrational things-—like Vice is Virtue and Slavery is Freedom.

In the trans-humanisim world-—people are objects and pawns for the super-elite satanists/bankers who will control the masses like their chess pieces and for their sick, satanic, sodomite (total dehumanization) amusement.


10 posted on 02/29/2016 8:57:03 AM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: servo1969

It is all about reducing individuals to totally interchangeable units usable in any trainable job. Ultimately that will require standardization of IQs in the serf population while permitting higher IQs among the rulers. To accomplish that, at least with the present technology, the period in which abortion is required would have to continue from conception until the age when IQ is measurable.


11 posted on 02/29/2016 8:57:41 AM PST by arthurus (Het is waar. Tutti i liberaliI won't vote for Rubio of sono feccia.)
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To: Blackirish

guys fight
gals support


12 posted on 02/29/2016 8:58:12 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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Not in the 0bamanation ...


13 posted on 02/29/2016 9:00:27 AM PST by NorthMountain (A plague o' both your houses.)
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To: redhead

Are you trying to make some sort of point there?


14 posted on 02/29/2016 9:02:35 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: NorthMountain

Guys still fight, but for the devil.


15 posted on 02/29/2016 9:04:45 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Blackirish

This ONE post says it all. MY ship, 1955 in Yokusaka Harbor, Japan.
One WWII vet, in the shower we all looked away. Upper torso 90% burned to point couldn’t look. All surface burns.
American aircraft carrier, hit by Kamikaze and afire beyond control. This KID, age then 19, FOUR time went down into a burning inferno to rescue 3 sailors and 1 that dies of burns a hour later. Decorated.
Which of the combat ladies could carry ONE burn victim up 2 flaming decks, let alone go back and go back again?
Let alone carry a wounded buddy through ground fire?


16 posted on 02/29/2016 9:05:40 AM PST by CaptainAmiigaf (New York Times: "We print the news as it fits our views.")
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To: servo1969

It’s a stupid idea.
However;

It is also a less stupid idea than having women fill up slots in deployable MOS fields and then not go on combat tours. That reduces the ability of the military to give combat troops non combat billets between combat tours.

How about we restore one set of physical and mental standards for the military? Then people who lack the physical capacity for the job won’t be there. We won’t be “rejecting women” just insuring the best survival likelihood for all personnel.


17 posted on 02/29/2016 9:06:41 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: redhead
Anybody seen what the Yazidi women and Israeli women do with the weapons they are given?

No, actually we have not. There are no stories of brigades of women infiltrating by cover of night and slaughtering the enemy. There are no stories of women conducting frontal assaults and humping machineguns and mortars in rifle companies.

They are doing what they have to do for survival, being outnumbered 29:1. And their role is limited in the context of all-out war. It's really no different than the role of women on the American frontier.

18 posted on 02/29/2016 9:07:02 AM PST by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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Israeli women also make good guards. But they don’t make good assault personnel.


19 posted on 02/29/2016 9:10:29 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: redhead

Can you tell us what you have seen them do, besides dress up in battlegear?

Because the Israelis do not use their women in combat outfits.

It is a misconception that they do.


20 posted on 02/29/2016 9:18:10 AM PST by rlmorel ("Irrational violence against muslims" is a myth, but "Irrational violence against non-muslims" isn't)
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