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Cruz Defends Against Trump's Claims of 'Rigged' Delegate System
NBC News ^ | April 12, 2016 | Vaughn Hillyard

Posted on 04/12/2016 8:02:50 PM PDT by reaganaut1

Ted Cruz rejected Donald Trump's claims that the GOP race is rigged, telling Glenn Beck on Tuesday that Trump will continue "to scream that they're stealing the election" as long as they continue to successfully wrangle delegates before a possible contested convention this summer.

"Apparently, when anyone votes against him, it's an act of theft," Cruz said on Beck's online radio show. He also told Beck the Trump campaign's "inability to even show up and win elections" makes it appear the front runner "can't run a lemonade stand."

"Donald, it ain't stealing when the voters vote against you -- it is the voters reclaiming this country and reclaiming sanity," Cruz told a San Diego crowd at a rally on Monday night.

In the last day, Cruz has hotly defended his campaign's efforts to send Cruz loyalists as delegates to this July's Republican National Convention in Cleveland.

Cruz's campaign swept up each of Colorado's 34 GOP delegates last weekend at its state and congressional district conventions after a similarly strong outcome in North Dakota the week prior. And in states that have already held their primaries or caucuses - like Tennessee, Arizona and Iowa - the Cruz campaign has effectively positioned its own supporters as Trump delegates in preparation for a second or third ballot that would allow them to vote for Cruz.

Trump tweeted bafflement on Sunday about the system: "I win a state in votes and then get non-representative delegates because they are offered all sorts of goodies by Cruz campaign. Bad system!"

(Excerpt) Read more at nbcnews.com ...


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To: dforest
Cruz is slime.

tRUMP the Whiner is getting slimed because he is too lazy to read the rules of each State.

Expected someone else to do the lifting for him and they didn't and now he had to FIRE them.

101 posted on 04/12/2016 11:24:55 PM PDT by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: eartick

Honey, I’d suggest getting that tick out of your ear.


102 posted on 04/12/2016 11:29:51 PM PDT by CatDancer (Praise the Lord and Vote Trump!)
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To: eartick

My post wasn’t meant as an insult to Trump voters.

I am one.

Don’t particularly like you using my thread to insult them.

It was a call to fight, not to demean at all.


103 posted on 04/12/2016 11:33:04 PM PDT by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: tinyowl

And which Colorado voters would that be?
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Those that voted on March 1, 2016.


104 posted on 04/12/2016 11:35:39 PM PDT by octex
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To: cornfedcowboy

There was a day when Cruz was much appreciated as a conservative voice for folks like us.”

Then we got to know him and realized what a slime he really is. Haven’t even heard the druzbots bleating the tired old lie of being so called “principled consevative Christian”. Bastards have abandoned God for Cruz.


105 posted on 04/13/2016 12:33:51 AM PDT by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: cornfedcowboy

“There was a day when Cruz was much appreciated as a conservative voice for folks like us.”

And just when was that day? I guess that day waa back before most of us knew who he really was, like about 12 months ago or more!


106 posted on 04/13/2016 12:53:45 AM PDT by vette6387 (Obama can go to hell!)
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To: reaganaut1
“Ted Cruz rejected Donald Trump's claims that the GOP race is rigged, telling Glenn Beck on Tuesday”

Why can't this guy go on something other than Glenn Beck's show. I've never watched it along with 95% of other Americans.

107 posted on 04/13/2016 2:22:20 AM PDT by McGruff (Lyin' Cheatin' Ted)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

>>It’s OK for Cruz to use every trick in the book, but not Trump.

They aren’t tricks. These are the rules as set forth by the Party Establishment to insure that politically reliable candidates are chosen by the Party Establishment for the nomination so that the best Progressive possible can lose to Hillary.

Why do you Trumpanzees keep acting as if your pitiful little “votes” matter in this multi-billion dollar industry? Can’t you see that the march to a Glorious Progressive Future can’t be derailed by temper tantrums from people who work for a paycheck and worry about where they will get the money to fix the A/C! American is better than that! Let the people who were born to lead and educated in the best schools be in charge and stop acting like you little people matter.


108 posted on 04/13/2016 4:25:07 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: reaganaut1

Kind of like Obama and company claiming to be the most open administration of all time - no foul deeds being performed here, folks - kindly avert your eyes and move on....


110 posted on 04/13/2016 4:49:56 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: dp0622; All

“CRYING AND WHINING is not a Conservative trait!!!”

Precisely! And that is what Trump does every time he doesn’t win or get his way. All of you liberal Trump supporters are going to feel very foolish if Trump gets the nomination and all of his “supporters” he brought (or bought) into the Republican party vote for Hilary or Bernie in November.


111 posted on 04/13/2016 5:04:44 AM PDT by navet97
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To: navet97

“CRYING AND WHINING is not a Conservative trait!!!”

Precisely! And that is what Trump does every time he doesn’t win or get his way.


Thanks. Keep on defending those ridiculous 10 second speeches in CO. The whole CO process was rotten and everybody can see it except deluded Cruzers. Cruz is making a huge tactical error defending that GOPe train wreck. He’s tanking in the polls, falling two 3rd behind Kasich and not campaigning much at all. This is not a winning strategy for Cruz and as a Trumper I am happy to see him implode.


112 posted on 04/13/2016 5:10:20 AM PDT by lodi90 (Clear choice for Conservatives now: TRUMP or lose)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Cruz knows how to game the system. Trump knows how to game the presstitutes.

The former is fine, yet you keep whining about how Trump games the presstitutes.


113 posted on 04/13/2016 5:10:24 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it." --Samuel Clemens)
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To: octex

Where are the vote totals?


114 posted on 04/13/2016 5:12:58 AM PDT by Flick Lives (One should not attend even the end of the world without a good breakfast. -- Heinlein)
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To: gg188
So you are saying that Cruz talked the delegates into switching from Trump to Cruz?

More likely, you are talking about a state that did not directly elect committed delegates, but had a presidential preference that bound delegate slots or positions on the first convention vote. The actual people who would become those delegates were chosen later in county, district, or state meetings, which is where Cruz had a ground game in place to wisely get people favorable to him elected as delegates.

I am not an expert on the process, but many people (including Trump's campaign team) didn't seem to understand that selecting delegates is a strategically important function of running a campaign for the nomination if you care about what has to happen after the first bound vote for a winner to eventually be chosen at convention.

Was Trump really OK with letting delegates be chosen for him without his team putting forth their own list and working to get them selected (in states where delegates were not directly elected)?
115 posted on 04/13/2016 5:54:48 AM PDT by TheCornerOffice
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To: TheCornerOffice

Thank you for defending totalitarianism.

After all, the Will of the Party is paramount, not the will of the people. The people just get in the way of what The Party wants.


116 posted on 04/13/2016 6:00:21 AM PDT by Luircin (Supervillians for Trump: We're sick of being the lesser evil!)
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To: gg188

I suspect many delegates are having 2nd thoughts about Donald, and can be cultivated for 2nd , 3rd + ballots, once demonstrated that Donald’s high water mark is the 1st ballot.

Cruz is 3 steps ahead of everyone in most things he does, whether a campaign or as Pres. Trump relies on his “charm”, which has been rather bullyish lately, rather than study and fully know the issues. imho


117 posted on 04/13/2016 6:59:16 AM PDT by chiller (One from the Right - One for the Fight)
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To: caww

Trump was so unprepared for the reality of the long tough campaign this has turned into. I saw his hired gun operative Manafort complaining that Cruz was doing back room deals- this from the king of back room deals- just too rich.


118 posted on 04/13/2016 7:37:07 AM PDT by austingirl (Cruz 2016)
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To: dforest

Looks like Drudge agrees with you....and, that he’s had about enough of cRuz’s dirty tricks.


119 posted on 04/13/2016 7:38:21 AM PDT by Jane Long (Go Trump, go! Make America Safe Again :)
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To: CatDancer
Cat Dancer---you're a winner. You gave me my answer. After this discussion, I researched further I realized the dirty secret that no one on FR talked about (until you) in reference to "Cruz's superior ground game" and his "courting the delegates," in states AFTER Trump had won but in which Cruz operatives stayed behind to "court" the delegates, and despite losing the VOTE to Trump the Cruz people got the delegates. Here's how it works:

Here's how the Washington Post described it on 4/11/16:

Under regulations established in the 1980s, delegates cannot take money from corporations, labor unions, federal contractors or foreign nationals. But an individual donor is permitted to give a delegate unlimited sums to support his or her efforts to get selected to go to the convention, including money to defray the costs of travel and lodging.

120 posted on 04/13/2016 1:52:54 PM PDT by gg188 (Ted Cruz, R - Goldman Sachs)
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