Posted on 04/18/2016 2:36:38 AM PDT by markomalley
Donald Trump's relentless assault on the rules that govern how Republicans choose their nominee is coming far too late to change what even defenders acknowledge is a complicated selection system.
He seems to know it, too.
Instead, his railing against a "rigged" process appears aimed at amplifying his central message to an angry electorate: America is a mess, and only Trump can clean it up.
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False.
The Constitution is the answer. When things are going wrong one needs to return to the fundamentals. Our Constitution has been ignored and until we return to its first principles we will be a mess.
Donald doesn't talk about the Constitution. He talks about Donald. "I hire people." "I beat China all the time. "I will be the greatest jobs president that God ever created." "I will build a great wall." "I am rich." "I will deport people."
Trump-style populism is at odds with constitutional conservatism. The Constitution is a device for frustrating popular enthusiasms, as are federalism, checks and balances, and the rule of law. In Trump's world it is for, "losers".
Yeah, it’s whining when you don’t understand the system enough to know that it’s not corrupt...it’s just how they want to run their party primary. Just because you don’t approve doesn’t make it corrupt.
Trumpsters apparently mistakenly think, like Trump, that this is ‘supposed to be a democracy’. It’s not. This is not a majority rules nation and God willing, it never will be. Because the majority is fast becoming radical, stuckonstupid liberals. And rule by those people is the absolute LAST thing this nation needs or can survive.
If both parties in Colorado had not agreed on a return to a primary system there would likely have been a referendum on the issue for voters to decide in November. Numerous grassroots organizations were working on it and party leaders were already united behind legislation as a ballot initiative loomed. If Trump doesn’t get the nomination he could easily run as a write-in candidate, but there are still other ways to influence the system for average people that don’t require the organization and resources of running candidates.
The existence of political parties goes back thousands of years, and is inherent in any republican form of government. Perhaps you can get around it in a pure democracy, but I don't think so even then.
Parties are simply a way that people organize voluntarily to combine their votes on issues of importance to them.
It doesn't, which is exactly the point. Actions of private citizens don't have to be expressly mentioned in the Constitution for them to be permitted. If the Constitution doesn't expressly mention and ban political parties, then they're perfectly legal.
I wouldn't think that needed to be pointed out, but apparently, it did.
I’d rather have the party run by 165 people pulled randomly from the Republican voter rolls than the 165 un-elected, unaccountable potentates who now sit at the RNC making decisions that profoundly affect the rest of us.
That is a usurpation of power that the founders never intended, and that George Washington specifically warned against. Was he whining then, too?
“It doesn’t, which is exactly the point. Actions of private citizens don’t have to be expressly mentioned in the Constitution for them to be permitted.”
And when other citizens do not approve of their actions, they have to right to petition for redress of grievances. Which Cruz and his supporter then conveniently call, “whining.”
That was my point.
You’ve lost your minds collectively. Cruz got 14 delegates in WY with 640 votes. And you folks expect them to count equally with Florida. The parties status is ensconced in too many state and federal statutes for this to fly. Florida has ten times the electoral votes but only 7 times the delegates making the 640 votes for Cruz exponentially more valuable. That is un-American. And can not stand sunlight.
>You’ve lost your minds collectively. Cruz got 14 delegates in WY with 640 votes. And you folks expect them to count equally with Florida. The parties status is ensconced in too many state and federal statutes for this to fly. Florida has ten times the electoral votes but only 7 times the delegates making the 640 votes for Cruz exponentially more valuable. That is un-American. And can not stand sunlight.
I’ve noticed that a lot of Cruz states were massively over valued based on population size. Anyone know why?
There's nothing unconstitutional about "private clubs". If you don't like their rules, start your own. If you want to join theirs, you play by their rules.
It’s just how they want to run their party primary. Just because you don’t approve doesn’t make it corrupt.
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And the Nazi Party just wanted rule the world, Just because you don’t approve doesn’t make it corrupt.
Amazing!
There is no reasoning with the unreasonable here. I’m not even going to waste my time trying, but good luck to you. They (Trump followers) don’t understand and they probably don’t want to understand.
He's already failed at running airlines and casinos. What makes you think he can run a nation? He's got to do more than paint the buildings gold, and put "Trump" in flashing lights above them.
Oh...great. So now you’re comparing the GOP/Republican Party to the Nazi Party? You a Trump fan? That figures.
That was pretty dumb.
Consistent with the Constitution and extra-Constitutional are not necessarily mutually exclusive concepts. But the parties as they are now constituted wield far more power than was ever intended.
BTW, Trump voter pushback has started a civil war inside the RNC: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/apr/16/reince-priebus-blasted-major-breach-trust-top-rnc-/
The money quote: “Mr. Priebus‘ former loyalists say they have reluctantly concluded that forces at the RNC will stop at virtually nothing to keep the door open to the nomination of Ohio Gov. John Kasich at the July convention – or, as some skeptics fear, some “white knight” who moderates claim will have broader voter appeal this fall than either Donald Trump or Ted Cruz, the two top-delegate winners, have shown in most polls so far.”
Seems that under the current rules of order, Preibus can procedurally “close” the convention and “reopen” it under new rules not voted on by the delegates. That is how they are planning to parachute in somebody like Ryan.
Still happy with the party rules?
Trump’s rants risk exposing those trying to steal the nomination and manipulate the process.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/apr/16/reince-priebus-blasted-major-breach-trust-top-rnc-/
Read it and weep: current RNC rules allow Priebus to parachute in a new nominee even if the rules committee has disallowed it and a majority delegates have voted against it. Still love the party rules?
??????? Any idea of why Cruz’s national ratigs have taken a big hit? He has alienated so many folks with his antics as a spoiler (putting the nomination in the hands of the establishment by working tirelessly to take it out of the hands of the People/Voters) that come election time, Romney will seem like a good choice.
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