Posted on 04/22/2016 12:47:59 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
Well, for one thing, it would be counterproductive. With three, four or five candidates drawing delegates, it simply prevents anyone from getting to 1237 and ensures that the GOPe gets to install one of their own establishment guys at the convention. The malleable "rules" are designed to to preserve, protect and defend the establishment ruling class. Nothing more.
Cruz knows this. He has betrayed the grassroots.
Yeah, I guess age could be a problem.
Not a bad pick
He already has AZ in the bag so she won't help.
I said Palin "type". I agree that Palin is poison.
Correct that she wouldn’t help in Arizona. But a female VP could be helpful regardless of which state she came from. We will find out at the Convention.
I want Cruz to stay in...he realizes that it will take conservatism to save the country and if he bails there will not be a conservative left in the race.
What do you gain by beating "a dead horse"? What you gain is a Democrat in the WH. Oh, wait....maybe that is what you wanted all along.
“Cruz brings no benefit to Trump at all.”
Disagree. He brings millions of dedicated supporters. After the bloodbath of this contest, something dramatic must be done to unite the base.
November is going to be ALL about participation. A Trump-Cruz combination gets support from almost all Republican voters and forces the GOPe to adapt to what we the people want.
By 1912, twelve states either selected delegates in primaries, used a preferential primary, or both. By 1920 there were 20 states with primaries, but some went back, and from 1936 to 1968, 12 states used them.
Thanks for that info. Made me check up on that.
One thing this election season has done, along with a whole lot more information available, was to push me to get much more educated about the primary process.
You are right, as you already knew. Those who do not put America First are no conservatives. They may be religious. They may be good Christians. But the key foundational principle of conservatism is love of country first. Right now we have people focussed on the use of toilets relative to state law and one of our 50 states.
It may be an issue. It may be important to them as the moral crisis of their lifetime.
But loving America and putting America first, that is the issue that I care about.
There may be no politically correct way for any of us to go to the bathroom after Iran nukes us, or Mexico takes our last job.
The guys who dropped out have in some cases dropped out because they love this country. The traitor to our cause refuses to drop out because of his love ego and self.
Go Trump. Go away Ted, you got a job in Texas to do.
Good stuff. As a Cruz supporter I want him as VP before he takes the Oval Office. Alas, in the last week I have been permanently disabused of any Trump/Cruz hope. I can easily vote for Trump if he chooses a *real* conservative VP for bench-warmer. I’m secure Cruz will check Trump from the Senate if the Admin swerves too far left...
When you have Daddy noisily insisting that you've been "anointed to take control of society," and Glenn Beck likening you to a reborn Moses, it's probably inevitable that you'd start feeling absurdly... you know... entitled. ;)
What are Cruz’ “conservative” positions?
The first scenario is not even worthy of consideration, because should an event like that occur, Ted Cruz could always "unsuspend" his campaign and garner the nomination easily.
Similar for the second. I think it's pretty clear by now that Donald Trump is unlikely to put his foot in his mouth any more than he already has. That's wishful thinking.
The fact is, the GOP electorate has selected Donald Trump as their nominee.
So let's focus on your third scenario, ev en though it seems very likely that Trump will reach 1,237 delegates before the convention, which is the best outcome for both the party and the nation at large.
It's equally unlikely, based on several factors, to duplicate the "magic" of 1869.
Thus, I dismiss your scenarios.
Under the real conditions that exist, it's absolutely unrealistic to believe that your third scenario would lead to anything other than the splintering of the party, destruction of voter enthusiasm, and a landslide loss in November.
In this modern age where information travels instantly, such stunts as occurred in 1860 are simply impossible. Let's also not forget what happened to the country in the immediate aftermath of the 1860 elections.
It is Ted Cruz who is risking the party and the country with his egotism, narcissism, and blind personal ambition.
At this point, he's talking past the voters, pundits, and People.
I guess it's going to take some more humiliating defeats, starting with Tuesday, and culminating with a crushing defeat in Indiana, for Cruz to finally see the light. After that, if he doesn't step aside, he will be remembered as a traitor to his party.
It would be better if we were spared this travesty, and, as I've said, if the situation were reversed, there would be a universal call for Donald Trump to step aside.
But since Cruz has the party elites on his side, that hasn't happened yet.
So nice try, but even if your scenario is technically possible, it completely ignores the psychology at play and the events which have occurred. In this modern age, a distant second place candidate sidestepping the clear frontrunner simply won't wash, especially wit the GOPe having poisoned the well so effectively with their insane "NeverTrump" vendetta.
We don't need a tainted process in Cleveland.
Fortunately, the American GOP voters agree, and you can expect them to issue a stinging rebuke to Ted Cruz over the next couple of Tuesdays.
Thanks for trying, though, you gave it a good shot. That's more than I can say for those who choose simply to ignore my logic, and not engage in spirited debate.
Vote Trump
You? I'm not so sure about.
Well said. Thanks.
Vast majority will vote Trump over Hillary any day. Cruz would be wise to throw his support to Trump now for the open Supreme court spot.
People to tend to “hang in there” until the money runs out.
Cruz and Kasich have donors still sending them money.
Why do you think Cruz is a “conservative?” What are his “conservative” attributes / positions?
Worrying about Cruz staying in the race is sign of insecurity. Is Trump so weak that continuing to contend is problematic? It’s not as if he is going to run out of money. IMHO, it will h lip him to further refine his message.
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