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Royal Navy fires warning shots as Spanish vessel harasses US sub in Gibraltar
The Telegraph ^ | 05-05-2016 | Ben Farmer

Posted on 05/05/2016 6:02:14 AM PDT by NRx

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To: VanDeKoik

Well the problem for Britain is that the Elgin marbles aren’t theirs.

They stole them from Greece’s Parthenon.


41 posted on 05/05/2016 8:50:20 AM PDT by MarvinStinson
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To: Jack Hammer
Bad enough obama sits still for Russian and Chinese naval insults

You totally forgot about Iran.

42 posted on 05/05/2016 8:53:17 AM PDT by usurper (Liberals GET OFF MY LAWN)
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To: KC_Lion

NUKE MADRID!


43 posted on 05/05/2016 8:59:02 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Trump is great. Just great. He's going to do great things and America will be great and spectacular.)
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To: MarvinStinson

True sort of.

The Ottomans gave them permission to take them, and they paid for them.

So they have a “legit” claim, albeit one that is less than kosher in light of how it all went down.


44 posted on 05/05/2016 9:46:27 AM PDT by VanDeKoik (Viral v)
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To: VanDeKoik

TRUE 100%.

The Greeks who made the Parthenon created them.

Britain stole them.

You have taken up the mantle of Bill Clinton, who said,

“That depends on what the meaning of the word is is.”


45 posted on 05/05/2016 10:02:34 AM PDT by MarvinStinson
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To: JoeProBono
I love what that infographic says about the Florida...

Range: the globe

Armaments: 154 Tomahawk missilies...enough to wreck Madrid

46 posted on 05/05/2016 10:09:33 AM PDT by hoagy62 (Timid Men prefer the 'Calm of Despotism' to the 'Tempestuous Sea of Liberty'. ~ T. Jefferson)
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To: MarvinStinson
Britain stole them.

I take it that you're in favor of returning Cleopatra's needle from Central Park in New York to Egypt or all the artwork that was stolen by the Nazis and auctioned off to support their war effort much of which is spread out over US museums?

how-a-french-masterpiece-stolen-by-nazis-came-to-st

Or how about returning California and Texas to Mexico which were "stolen" more recently than the Elgin marbles.

47 posted on 05/05/2016 11:51:10 AM PDT by Timocrat (Ingnorantia non excusat)
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To: Timocrat

I take you are in favor of letting every criminal keep his stolen goods.

Keep up the deep thinking, Tim.


48 posted on 05/05/2016 11:53:11 AM PDT by MarvinStinson
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To: usurper

Good call.


49 posted on 05/05/2016 1:16:59 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: KC_Lion

The Spanish crew probably thought it was a UK sub and not a US sub.

Also, “HMS Sabre”??? I don’t think the USN puts names on anything that small. The Royal Navy must be pretty hard up when they’re putting names on glorified fishing boats.


50 posted on 05/05/2016 3:46:49 PM PDT by MeganC (The Republic of The United States of America: 7/4/1776 to 6/26/2015 R.I.P.)
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To: MarvinStinson; Timocrat

“I take you are in favor of letting every criminal keep his stolen goods.”

Marvin, you should set a moral example for Tim by giving your home back to whatever native tribe it was stolen from.

That’ll show him how it’s done!


51 posted on 05/05/2016 3:56:56 PM PDT by MeganC (The Republic of The United States of America: 7/4/1776 to 6/26/2015 R.I.P.)
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To: MeganC

I’ll let him do it first.

By the way, what does that have to do with Britain stealing the Elgin marbles?


52 posted on 05/05/2016 5:12:54 PM PDT by MarvinStinson
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To: MarvinStinson; MeganC
I take you are in favor of letting every criminal keep his stolen goods.

Statute of Limitations

You realize that Elgin's motive in acquiring the marbles, for which he had permission from the Turks to do, was preservation of the artifacts. The Turks had been using the stone from the Parthenon as building material for the mosque that was built inside the Parthenon and for other projects.

As you apparently approve of the return of Texas and California to Mexico how do you feel about returning Manhattan island to the Canarsees ?.

Keep up the deep thinking, Tim.

Ah! Ad Hominem, sorry you lose.

53 posted on 05/05/2016 6:25:17 PM PDT by Timocrat (Ingnorantia non excusat)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Yea, and skipper gets courts martialed for dinging a billion dollar US Naval asset and endangering his crew.

I understand the sentiment, but please.


54 posted on 05/05/2016 7:36:04 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: Timocrat

Tim justifies the theft of the Elgin marbles.

What a loser.


55 posted on 05/06/2016 3:30:42 AM PDT by MarvinStinson
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To: MeganC
Also, “HMS Sabre”??? I don’t think the USN puts names on anything that small. The Royal Navy must be pretty hard up when they’re putting names on glorified fishing boats

It's a matter of legalities. The HMS designation means it is a warship under the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea which means it can be used to enforce British claims on Gibraltar. Using larger ships for this purpose is pointless - and would also be potentially provocative towards the Spanish (it's no accident that the Guardia Civil patrol boat is of similar tonnage - while it is important to both countries that they maintain their claims, Spain and the UK do not want to wind up accidentally in conflict, so an arms race is to be avoided).

HMS Sabre was originally MV Grey Wolf when it was in a role that didn't require that legal status.

56 posted on 05/06/2016 4:03:03 AM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: MarvinStinson

Americans gonna lecture us on theft, really?.


57 posted on 05/06/2016 6:24:17 AM PDT by the scotsman
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To: the scotsman

Britain holds the record for theft all over the world.

Have you seen the Elgin [Parthenon] marbles?


58 posted on 05/06/2016 11:16:57 AM PDT by MarvinStinson
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To: AFreeBird

I have no doubt you’re right.


59 posted on 05/06/2016 5:55:33 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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