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Uber and Lyft will leave Austin, TX after losing vote on fingerprinting
FOX 8 ^

Posted on 05/09/2016 10:15:29 AM PDT by matt04

Uber and Lyft spent more than $8 million and bombarded voters with mailers, ads, phone calls and text messages. In the end, it wasn’t enough to convince residents in Austin, Texas to vote against a new fingerprint requirement for drivers.

On Saturday, Austin voted 56% to 44% against Proposition 1, which would have allowed ride-hailing companies to continue using their own background check systems. The city will now go ahead with plans to require fingerprint background checks and other regulations.

Both Uber and Lyft have announced they will no longer operate in the city as a result of the loss. Uber will stop service Monday morning at 8 am. Lyft said it will also “pause operations” on Monday.

“Disappointment does not begin to describe how we feel about shutting down operations in Austin,” said an Uber spokesperson in a statement. “We hope the City Council will reconsider their ordinance so we can work together to make the streets of Austin a safer place for everyone.”

The companies argued that fingerprinting relies on out-of-date databases and makes it difficult to hire enough drivers in a timely fashion. Advocates for fingerprinting say it’s more effective at screening out potential criminals.

“The rules passed by City Council don’t allow true ridesharing to operate. Instead, they make it harder for part-time drivers, the heart of Lyft’s peer-to-peer model, to get on the road and harder for passengers to get a ride. Because of this, we have to take a stand for a long-term path forward that lets ridesharing continue to grow across the country,” a Lyft spokesperson said in a statement.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: austin; lyft; proposition1; ridesharing; texas; uber
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I have taken Uber a few times and every time the car was clean and well maintained, driver polite, knowledgeable and smelled like they showered daily. I was also a bonus I knew the fare in advance. More often than not the cabs I have taken were in disrepair, dash lit up like a Christmas tree, no A/C in August, dirty and drivers who were rude, took phone calls in a foreign language, and smelled.
1 posted on 05/09/2016 10:15:29 AM PDT by matt04
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To: matt04

I don’t understand the problem with having the drivers fingerprinted. It seems a pretty basic security precaution, and it seems pretty cheap to accomplish. I’m surprised the insurance companies didn’t demand it.


2 posted on 05/09/2016 10:18:21 AM PDT by xzins ( Free Republic Gives YOU a voice heard around the globe. Support the Freepathon!)
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To: matt04

Government is in the business of selling monopolies.

Nothing must stand in the way of commerce.


3 posted on 05/09/2016 10:18:23 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it." --Samuel Clemens)
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To: matt04

Diversity at work. Enjoy. No? Obviously you’re not part of the Borg yet.


4 posted on 05/09/2016 10:20:01 AM PDT by meatloaf
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To: matt04

What you observed matches my experience with Uber/Lyft as well.
The only shortcoming to Uber/Lyft is obtaining a reliable ride to the airport at 4:30 am or similar.
When a ride is crucial or time-sensitive other sources are usually better.


5 posted on 05/09/2016 10:20:18 AM PDT by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: matt04

Somewhere in you explanation of your experiences with cab drivers lays a description of the utopian vision of Obama’s America.


6 posted on 05/09/2016 10:20:33 AM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: matt04

Austin is the Texas equivalent of Berkeley (or maybe Moscow) and of course libs deserve everything they get.


7 posted on 05/09/2016 10:20:39 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Every nation has the government it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: matt04

Out West, there have been reports of female passengers for Uber being raped and or robbed. Uber and Lyft may feel encumbered by these antiqated systems of security as with fingerprints, but they have reason to be careful. I suspect someone else with money in Austin will be happy to form an Uber-like service that does allow for fingerprints. There is obviously a good market already there.


8 posted on 05/09/2016 10:21:56 AM PDT by lee martell
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To: matt04

I like Uber too.


9 posted on 05/09/2016 10:22:34 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: matt04
dirty and drivers who were rude, took phone calls in a foreign language, and smelled.

You smell. They stink.

10 posted on 05/09/2016 10:22:45 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: xzins; Texan5

There really is no need - EXCEPT Austin is a liberal dictatorship demonated by the liberals in the University of Texas and the TX state government bureaucracies and the extremists in the Austin and county governments.

Thus, any free-market non-government-approved system like ride-sharing for - gasp! - money is hated and to-be-destroyed.


11 posted on 05/09/2016 10:23:13 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: xzins
I’m surprised the insurance companies didn’t demand it.

Assuming they don't, perhaps it is not as effective relative to the cost as you might surmise. Perhaps for that reason we ought to be skeptical of any government, such as the Austin City Council, presuming to know how safe, comfortable convenient transportation is best organized.

And this assumes that the council wants what is best for potential drivers and passengers as a whole, not what is best for the existing taxi cartel. Needless to say, that assumption is very questionable.

12 posted on 05/09/2016 10:24:47 AM PDT by untenured
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To: matt04

The winners in the Austin Proposition 1 defeat are the Capital Metro/taxi cartel of the People’s Socialist Kakistocracy of Austin, and their leftist supporters.


13 posted on 05/09/2016 10:26:04 AM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: untenured

I’m just thinking about it from the perspective if I had to insure Uber against misbehavior of any of its drivers. I’d want a basic background check at a minimum, and that would include fingerprints.

I am assuming that Uber has insurance. Maybe they don’t.


14 posted on 05/09/2016 10:28:07 AM PDT by xzins ( Free Republic Gives YOU a voice heard around the globe. Support the Freepathon!)
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To: matt04

I soured on Uber when I found out that they forbid their drivers - at least in New York - from carrying, even if they have a Concealed Carry Permit. And if anyone needs one, it’s someone driving a cab.

So they claim that they’re just a website, not a cab company. But the imposed more gun control on their drivers (who supposedly are independent contractors) than even New York City does.


15 posted on 05/09/2016 10:43:17 AM PDT by Hilda
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To: lee martell

There have been incidents, but there are probably less incidents than taxis or buses. In uber or lyft, both the driver and rider are known to uber, as well as the route the car takes, when the ride gets to the destination, etc. People who commit crimes during an uber ride are caught easily.


16 posted on 05/09/2016 10:46:31 AM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Hilda

The driver could just ignore that silly directive from his/her employer.
It is not like they check-in at an office or dispatch center.
One cannot really be "fired" from driving their own car and giving rides to people for a negotiated fee.


17 posted on 05/09/2016 10:48:45 AM PDT by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: Blue Jays

Exactly. I’ve been traveling a lot recently and I would not rely on Uber to get to the airport on time.

Btw in Toronto now!


18 posted on 05/09/2016 10:48:57 AM PDT by proud American in Canada (God bless the United States of America)
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To: xzins

I think that this is another example of government regulation because we can. Of course, they use that power to reward their supporters and punish their opponents. In this case, they are protecting the taxi monopoly. When we were colonies, all trade from America to other countries including other possessions in North America were required to be carried in British bottoms (ships). They were simply protecting British shipping at our expense. We did like this, but we couldn’t do anything about it until we became an Independent Country. Once we had done that, our governments, both local, state, and federal started to do the same sort of thing. It’s what governments do, especially socialist ones.


19 posted on 05/09/2016 10:49:58 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: matt04

“Advocates for fingerprinting say it’s more effective at screening out potential criminals.”

I would wager these advocates also tend to have ownership in traditional taxicab companies...


20 posted on 05/09/2016 10:50:16 AM PDT by Boogieman
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