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Trump: Jeb Bush 'not a man of honor' for refusing to back me
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Posted on 05/12/2016 11:38:24 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

Presumptive GOP presidential nominee Donald Trump is slamming Jeb Bush for refusing to back him, saying he isn't a "man of honor."

Trump criticized his 2016 primary rival for breaking the pledge he signed last year vowing to support the eventual Republican nominee.

“Jeb Bush dishonored his pledge. I mean he dishonored his pledge,” Trump said on the "Mike Gallagher Show" on Wednesday, as first reported by BuzzFeed News. “He signed a pledge, and, if you remember, they all wanted me to sign it, so I signed it. But that pledge is a guarantee, there’s no outs. It doesn’t say, 'subject to me liking Donald Trump' or anything.”

The former Florida governor said last week he doesn't plan to vote for Trump or Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton. Instead, he said he will "support principled conservatives at the state and federal levels."

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 2016election; bencarson; bleeding; bleedingfromwherever; bush; donald; election2016; florida; jeb; jebbush; lookatthatface; marcorubio; newyork; trump
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To: slowhandluke
It was a label indicating that Jeb was weak. Just like the label of Liddle Rubio was an indication that Rubio was a small man in character and stature.
61 posted on 05/12/2016 1:15:01 PM PDT by RedWulf (End Free trade.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Shocking...


62 posted on 05/12/2016 1:20:26 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Tax-chick

Any competition between decent people ends with congratulations to the winner! Certain of the competitors in this campaign, including Cruz and Bush, have no decency whatsoever. “Ethics” doesn’t enter into their little worlds, nor does it enter into the world of your “sort.”
Funny how a man’s word used to be his bond. Evidently it doesn’t count with “chicks” like you.


63 posted on 05/12/2016 1:21:08 PM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: HarleyLady27

He may be the “presumptive nominee,” but he’s not the nominee until the convention.


64 posted on 05/12/2016 1:23:57 PM PDT by T Ruth (Mohammedanism shall be defeated.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

OAN/Gravis Poll: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34Y7cA8w6Hk


65 posted on 05/12/2016 1:32:42 PM PDT by orchestra ((And there were also two other, malefactors, led with him to be put to death.))
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To: ChicagoConservative27
Thanks to the almost 150-year-old "liberal"/"progressive" movement, America's foundational concept of "the Oath" has been changed.

Perhaps the lack of a feeling of fidelity to oaths and pledges on exhibit among progressives of today may be a direct consequence of deliberate efforts to remove the idea expressed in the Declaration of Independence of a "Supreme Judge of the world" to whom all men and women are accountable.

The oath of office required for representatives of "the People" was intended to be sacred and binding, because that oath is a vow before the "Sovereign" of the Universe (James Madison), and its violation carries penalities both human and Divine.

"Where is the security for property, for reputation, for life, if the sense of religious obligation desert the oaths?"- President George Washington

For an historical account of efforts to remove that "sense of religious obligation" from "the oath," we might visit the Library of Congress and read the Centennial (of the Declaration) Thanksgiving Sermon," of Black Ohio State Legislator and A.M.E. Bishop Benjamin W. Arnett, in Norwalk, Ohio, in the Year 1876.

From the Library of Congress: African American Perspectives: Pamphlets from the Daniel A.P.Murray Collection, 1818-1907

Centennial Thanksgiving sermon,: delivered by Rev. B.W. Arnett, B.D., at St. Paul A.M.E. Church, Urbana, Ohio

CENTENNIAL THANKSGIVING SERMON

Excerpt from P. 31, in which he is discussing the Declaration of Independence:

"We, therefore, the representatives of the United States of America in General Congress assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the World for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the name, and by the authority of the good people of these colonies, solemnly publish and declare: That these United Colonies are and of right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are absolved from all allegiance to the British crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is, and ought to be, totally dissolved; and that, as Free and Independent States, they have full power to levy war, conclude peace, contract alliances, establish commerce, and to do all other things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this declaration, and in a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor." - JOHN HANCOCK.

Arnett continues:

"And the names of the whole Congress followed. You see that there is Divinity in this immortal document. Can we find in the "Articles of Confederation" anything to support the position that the founders of this government intended that it should be a nation for God, and that his religion should have a place in this land. It says: "Whereas it hath pleased the Great Governor of the World to incline the hearts of the legislatures we respectively represent in Congress, to approve of and to authorize us to ratify the said Articles of Confederation and perpetual union." Thus we find this assembly thanking the Governor of the world for inclining the hearts of men. Who can move the hearts of men but God? But we find them in reverence bowing to the Governor of men.

"We now call your attention to the Constitution of the Nation and let us examine that instrument in the light of the men who formed it, and we will see that this was intended to be a Nation founded in Righteousness and Justice. What does the instrument say on this subject:

"We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquillity, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

"Article VI says: "The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall be required as a Qualification to any office or public trust under the United States."

On Page 37, Rev. Arnett described the nature of "oaths and affirmations" as follows:

"Oaths and affirmations are appeals to God, by him who makes them, that what he has said, or what he shall say, is the truth. It is the most solemn form under which one can assert or pronounce anything, and its violation is a crime of the darkest hue; one which God has declared he will punish; one that is made infamous and punishable by fine and imprisonment, by the laws of the land. Thus Christian obligation is required of every officer of the general Government, who fills any position of trust, honor or emolument. Many reports are required in the form and shape of affidavits."

Note the following section of Rev. Arnett's "Sermon" which deals with the effort of prominent self-described "liberals" of the day to "change" America. Note, also, that one of the proposed "changes" dealt with "the oath."

"The Danger to our Country.

"Now that our national glory and grandeur is principally derived from the position the fathers took on the great questions of right and wrong, and the career of this nation has been unparalleled in the history of the past, now there are those who are demanding the tearing down the strength of our national fabric. They may not intend to tear it down, but just as sure as they have their way, just that sure will they undermine our superstructure and cause the greatest calamity of the age. What are the demands of this party of men? Just look at it and examine it for yourselves, and see if you are willing that they shall have their way; or will you still assist in keeping the ship of state in the hands of the same crew and run her by the old gospel chart! But ye men who think there is no danger listen to the demands of the Liberals as they choose to call themselves:

"'Organize!Liberals of America! The hour for action has arrived. The cause of freedom calls upon us to combine our strength, our zeal, our efforts. These are The Demands of Liberalism:

"'1. We demand that churches and other ecclesiastical property shall no longer be exempt from just taxation.

"'2. We demand that the employment of chaplains in Congress, in State Legislatures, in the navy and militia, and in prisons, asylums, and all other institutions supported by public money, shall be discontinued.

"'3. We demand that all public appropriations for sectarian educational and charitable institutions shall cease.

"'4. We demand that all religious services now sustained by the government shall be abolished; and especially that the use of the Bible in the public schools, whether ostensibly as a text-book or avowedly as a book of religious worship, shall be prohibited.

"'5. We demand that the appointment, by the President of the United States or by the Governors of the various States, of all religious festivals and fasts shall wholly cease.

"'6. We demand that the judicial oath in the courts and in all other departments of the government shall be abolished, and that simple affirmation under the pains and penalties of perjury shall be established in its stead.

"'7. We demand that all laws directly or indirectly enforcing the observance of Sunday as the Sabbath shall be repealed.

"'8. We demand that all laws looking to the enforcement of “Christian” morality shall be abrogated, and that all laws shall be conformed to the requirements of natural morality, equal rights, and impartial liberty.

"'9. We demand that not only in the Constitution of the United States and of the several States, but also in the practical administration of the same, no privilege or advantage shall be conceded to Christianity or any other special religion; that our entire political system shall be founded and administered on a purely secular basis; and that whatever changes shall prove necessary to this end shall be consistently, unflinchingly, and promptly made.'

"'Let us boldly and with high purpose meet the duty of the hour.'

"Now we must not think that we have nothing to do in this great work, for the men who are at the head of this movement are men of culture and intelligence, and many of them are men of influence. They are led by that thinker and scholar, F. E. Abbott, than whom I know but few men who has a smoother pen, or who is his equal on the battle-field of thought. He says in an address on the duty of his leagues:

"'My answer may be a negative one to all who see nothing positive in the idea of liberty. The conviction I refer to is this: that, regarded as a theological system, Christianity is Superstition, and, regarded as an organized institution, Christianity is Slavery. The purpose I refer to is this: that, whether regarded as theological system, Christianity shall wholly cease to exercise influence in political matters. Although the national Constitution is strictly secular and non-Christian, there are many things in the practical administration of the government which violate its spirit, and constitute a virtual recognition of Christianity as the national religion. These violations are very dangerous; they are on the increase; they more and more give Christianity a practical hold upon the government; they directly tend to strengthen the influence of Christianity over the people, and to fortify it both as a theology and a church; and they are therefore justly viewed with growing indignation by liberals. Not unreasonably are they looked upon as paving the way to a formidable effort to carry the Christian Amendment to the Constitution; and the liberals are beginning to see that they must extinguish the conflagration in its commencement. I believe all this myself, with more intense conviction every day; and therefore I appeal frankly to the people to begin now to lay the foundations of a great National Party of Freedom. It is not a moment too soon. If the liberals are wise, they will see the facts as they are, and act accordingly. Not with hostility, bitterness, defiance, or anger but rather with love to all men and high faith in the beneficence of consistently republican institutions, do I urge them most earnestly to begin the work at once.'

"He acknowledges that this is a religious nation and wants all men to assist him in eliminating the grand old granite principles from the framework of our national union. Will you do it freeman; will we sell the temple reared at the cost of so much precious blood and treasure? These men would have us turn back the hands on the clock of our national progress, and stay the shadow on the dial plate of our christian civilization; they would have us call a retreat to the soldiers in the army of Christ; the banner of the cross they would have us haul down, and reverse the engines of war against sin and crime; the songs of Zion they would turn into discord, and for the harmony and the melody of the sons of God, they would give us general confusion; they would have us chain the forces of virtue and unloose the elements of vice; they would have the nation loose its moorings from the Lord of truth and experience and commit interest, morally, socially; religiously and politically to the unsafe and unreliable human reason; they would discharge God and his crew and run the ship of State by the light of reason, which has always been but a dim taper in the world, and all the foot-prints it has left are marked with the blood of men, women and children. No nation is safe when left alone with reason.

"But we have no notion of giving up the contest without a struggle or a battle. We are aware that there is a great commotion in the world of thought. Religion and science are at arms length contending with all their forces for the mastery. Faith and unbelief are fighting their old battles over again, everything that can be shaken is shaking. The foundations of belief are assaulted by the army of science and men are changing their opinions. New and starting theories are promulgated to the world; old truths are putting on new garbs. Error is dressing in the latest style, wrong is secured by the unholy alliances, changes in men and things, revolution in church and state, Empires are crumbling, Kingdoms tottering; everywhere the change is seen. In the social circle, in the school house, in the pulpit and in the pews. But amid all the changes and revolutions there are some things that are unchangeable, unmovable and enduring. The forces that underline the vital power of Christianity are the same yesterday, to-day, to-morrow and forever more. They are like their God, who is omnipotent, immovable and eternal, and everywhere truth has marched it has left its moccasin tracks." (End of excerpt from Dr. Benjamin W. Arnett's words on the occasion of the Norwalk, Ohio, "Centennial Thanksgiving Sermon, 1876">


66 posted on 05/12/2016 1:37:37 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: FrankR

Re the seriousness of “pledges,” or “oaths,” as the Founders called them, see my Post #66 for a historical glimpse of their gravity.


67 posted on 05/12/2016 1:43:50 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: Mollypitcher1
Funny how a man’s word used to be his bond.

Like Donald Trump's to his first two wives?

68 posted on 05/12/2016 1:44:34 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("We like us the way we are. That makes us real, true friends." ~ The Undead Thread)
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To: Tax-chick

If that was the case, why didn’t Jeb insist on it being a clause in the pledge he made?


69 posted on 05/12/2016 1:44:45 PM PDT by OldNewYork (Operation Wetback II, now with computers)
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To: HarleyLady27

I’ll vote Trump on that one day, but doesn’t mean I have to “support” him or like him.

His mantra against the Iraq War, and Bush lied nonsense just rubbed me the wrong way.

It makes the arguments the Lefties made sound legitimate. And I completely disagree.


70 posted on 05/12/2016 1:46:39 PM PDT by skinndogNN
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To: Tax-chick
Did you expect something different from Jeb Bush?

I expected him to comply with a signed contract.

71 posted on 05/12/2016 1:51:27 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Why, particularly?


72 posted on 05/12/2016 1:56:38 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("We like us the way we are. That makes us real, true friends." ~ The Undead Thread)
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To: OldNewYork

Not knowing him personally, I can’t say, but I expect it has something to do with his not giving a hoot what kind of “pledge” he made. This is theater, that’s all.


73 posted on 05/12/2016 2:00:02 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("We like us the way we are. That makes us real, true friends." ~ The Undead Thread)
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To: FrankR

But you’re ok with Trump dishonoring his pledge before God each time he got married?


74 posted on 05/12/2016 2:13:26 PM PDT by chae (The Lannisters send their regards--Game of Thrones)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

People either keep their word or they don’t.... Jeb’s a real disappointment on this one.


75 posted on 05/12/2016 2:13:57 PM PDT by GOPJ (Trump wants to increase the size of the pie. Ryan wants everyone eat less.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

The Bushs have never been men of honor.


76 posted on 05/12/2016 2:47:33 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Lex rex)
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To: chae

Yep! I’m electing a President, not a Pope.


77 posted on 05/12/2016 3:19:39 PM PDT by FrankR (You're only enslaved to the extent of the charity that you receive!)
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To: FrankR

That’s fine. But don’t go off on Jeb for doing the same thing Trump did.


78 posted on 05/12/2016 3:24:47 PM PDT by chae (The Lannisters send their regards--Game of Thrones)
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To: chae

Something wrong with your associative abilities? I didn’t say a word about “Jeb!”.

Go be looney with someone else, Glenn...that is you, isn’t it? I’m outta here.


79 posted on 05/12/2016 3:34:52 PM PDT by FrankR (You're only enslaved to the extent of the charity that you receive!)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

This is outrageous. For breaking the pledge, not for refusing to back Trump. As soon as I saw the headline, I knew it was some leftie rag.


80 posted on 05/12/2016 3:39:47 PM PDT by firebrand
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