EgyptAir Flight Data Shows Smoke Detected in Bathroom Before Crash: Report

NBC News ^ | May 19, 2016 | Staff

[Hulka]

Sounds reasonable.

[Oldeconomybuyer]

Well said sir!

[CivilWarBrewing]

‘Fixed Window Sensor’ alarm indicates a window was blown out, no?

[ALASKA]

LOOK!!!!!! A squirrel !!!!!!!

[Rockpile]

F16s were lost from chafing wires in the flight controls.

[ALASKA]

LOOK!!!!!! A squirrel !!!!!!!

[fision]

Or over a muslim country.

[Jim Noble]

Shoe bomber

[OrangeHoof]

Must be transgendered Muzzies...

[tenthirteen]

Just finished an airlines disaster novel by Ridley Pearson, called Hard Fall published in 1992. In it he details a case where the fire extinguisher in the cockpit and a detonator to set a fire is rigged. This flt 804 is eerily similar.

There’s more to it but I will not here explain further.

[old curmudgeon]

My understanding is that the radios were in the area thought to be the source of the fire.

[elpinta]

Distance is an issue with a handheld radio: most are 5W at the most, so if an aircraft is like 200 miles from the nearest tower, likely to need a real radio (the installed ones, which not only would run 50-100 W perhaps, but would also have long-range modes like SSB, which few handhelds do).

The handheld is great for general aviation and near-coast boating (in their respective frequencies and modes), where somebody or ground/land monitoring is likely to be taking place.

Just a couple of pennies.

[vette6387]

Maui Wowee and Labrador! According to Chong, his dog ate his stash!

[old curmudgeon]

When you think your airlane is on fire, you do not think about anything other than how to put the fire out and how to control the aircraft.

The number one rule in aviation is expressed in three sentences.

Aviate
Navigate
Communicate.

For those who don’t get it:

Aviate....fly the airplane first and above all else. Keep it upright and in one piece.

Navigate.....don’t run into any mountains and the ground while distracted by your problem.

Communicate is last because the first two will probably consume your time for quite a while.

The MAYDAY MAYDAY thing is the stuff of movies. Those of us who have flown a lot of hours are amazed at how calm crew members driving big iron sound in declaring an emergency.

That crew was concentrating full time on trying to get the aircraft under control.

[ROCKLOBSTER]

That crew was concentrating full time on trying to get the aircraft under control.

Well, either that, or deliberately crashing it.

[justa-hairyape]

Apparently our crack investigators in the FBI started the not terrorism meme. Was reported on Zero Hedge yesterday. FBI reports no sign of explosion. Forget the fireball witnesses saw. Gee. This seems like Deja Vu all over again.

[old curmudgeon]

Smoke in the cockpit area would convince me that the pilots were not the villains.

It is either a design/maintenance problem or sabotage.

I suspect the latter.

[steve86]

“I think everyone hopes that it was not terrorism”

I hope it was terrorism. Otherwise, we’d have Airbuses dropping out of the sky for no known technical reason. It’s no great revelation there are terrorists.

[Timpanagos1]

“I hope it was terrorism. Otherwise, we’d have Airbuses dropping out of the sky for no known technical reason. It’s no great revelation there are terrorists.”

If it was a mechanical problem, that problem can be fixed on other Airbus products.

That option is easy and cheap.

[freepersup]

I was wondering about the farthest forward reach of the baggage compartment, and how it lined up with the lavatory, and cockpit. Possibly the source/location of a bomb in someone's baggage.

Also, a ground crew mechanic could have planted a bomb in the avionics bay.

No communications whatsoever from the crew.

Did I hear that the debris field is being reported as 40 miles in length?

From the first indicator of trouble (smoke) to the final signal sent/received, just four seconds (or less) in elapsed time transpires.

Reminded of the telemetry received in the space shuttle's disintegration. A short final burst of information sent/received signifying anomalies, and then poof- nothing, due to a catastrophic break up.