Trump: ‘There is no drought’: Accuses California officials of denying water to farmers

The San Mateo Daily Journal ^ | May 28, 2016 | AP

[Edward.Fish]

>> ...the government simply turned off the spigot to the farmers lands.
>
> You remember correctly, and as is usually the case, the farmers had already paid in advance for the water.

Why didn’t the farmers shoot the politicians?
After all, without water they’ll die; or if it’s used for growing food, the food will die; or if the water is used to grow crops for sale the lack of water will cause them to have real hardship as they’ll have nothing to grow, and if they didn’t have money-reserves they wouldn’t be able to buy food and water for themselves, again causing their deaths. — IOW, seen for what it is, cutting off water to them is an attack on their lives, albeit indirect.

[Impala64ssa]

Well I had my issues with Trump, still do.
Same here. We have a choice between a pathological liar and an egomaniac, if there are no other alternatives, I'm willing to take my chances with the egomaniac. It's amusing to me how some people lament the increase of coarseness and the lack of civility political discourse, as if there's ever been civility in politics. When I grew up in Rockland County, NY my dad was involved in local politics as a Rep committeeman. When I first joined the Young republicans with all the BS that went on between Reps vs Dems and within the parties anyone unfamiliar with political inner workings would think Civil War II would break out.

[vette6387]

“There hasn’t been STORAGE conservation efforts for decades.”

Beyond the lunacy that says you can double a state’s population but not do ANYTHING about increasing the supply of water, we have an antequated system that can’t impound the early rains AND the melting snowpack. So our reservoirs ( in normal years) fill up early with rainwater runoff early in the rainy season, a lot of which has to be released to make room for the melting snows in the Spring. If you look at graphs of storage facilities like Folsom, you can see easily how they have released rainwater this year to “make room” for the melting snow. And don’t get me going about the Delta Smelt and it’s impact on water storage.

[vette6387]

“I was out in San Diego and if there was a drought I sure didn’t see it. It was the greenest I’ve ever seen it and it rained half the week. The only thing that there is a drought of in California is commonsense.”

Back in the last serious drought in 1972, when we, in Norcal were flushing out toilets with our bathwater, reporters from local TV stations went to Los Angeles to call out the residents there who were wasting the water that they got from Northern California. In a word, those people didn’t give a $hit!

[Mariner]

"Darn that Trump, there he goes telling the truth, again."

You're kidding, right?

I've been, and will continue to be a supporter of Donald Trump.

But this statement is ridiculous: "There is no drought".

Just what is it when Sacramento got 15 inches of rain in 3.5 years? A flood? Monsoon?

Only a fool could believe that statement.

[Mariner]

"Yes, there has been a “drought” but there is no water shortage for people who need it."

What about all the empty reservoirs?

[bgill]

Deport the illegals and there won’t be a water problem. Or a health care problem. Or a housing problem. Or an unemployment problem. Or a traffic problem. Or an educational problem. Or a ....

[Yaelle]

Water for humans, or pathways for the delta smelt to drop eggs in the sea? Hmmmmm, what to do?

Seriously, this kind of decision is exactly like seeing a man struggling to get free of a hungry bear, and CA officials aiming rifles and killing the man so the bear can get his dinner easier.

[Mariner]

"Trump undermines a legitimate point with an illegitimate one"

Correct.

The drought was quite severe and long-lasting.

It's not broken yet with the state, overall in a El Nino year, got about 75% of average rainfall.

The subterranean water is nearly depleted.

It will take 2-3 years of above-average rainfall to recover to "normal".

[Mariner]

"The rainfall patterns in CA are within the long term historical norms for California."

Bullshit.

Are you here?

The Valley Oak is a tree that has a tap root 100-140% longer than the tree is high. They are the largest oak in the world.

They draw their water from the natural water table.

They are dying by the millions. Many of them over 600 years old.

[Mariner]

"the "new normal drought" really is the standard long term rainfall pattern for CA"

That statement is not factually accurate.

[Yaelle]

I will agree. There is a drought. When I was young there would always be a couple of periods in the rainy season (which was then November to Feb) where there would be two weeks of steady rain without much break at all. That is why that sad song about the down and out guy in CA said “It never rains in CA, but man, it pours.”

As a child I remember watching streets flood from our den window. I remember immense puddles on our school playground. We launched leaf and twig boats in the gutters. In college at UCLA I remember getting soaked to the skin when caught out in the rain, as if I’d worn clothes into the shower.

The last 10 years, almost all rain is a light drizzle. Very few strong rains. Mostly, during what the local media is calling a STORM!!!!, if you look out a window you need to find a dark background to make out whether water is falling or not. In the last 3 years we have gone out to find puddles for the kids to jump in and been wholly unsuccessful. Even after a “rainy night” the ground is almost dry. Gutters are already empty.

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Trump: ‘There is no drought’: Accuses CA officials of denying water to farmers –SanMateoDaily
The top 5 people Donald Trump might pick as his vice president –Chris Cillizza
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[nikos1121]

You sound like my brother...A PhD idiot. NOt calling you an idiot, but I wonder why so many won’t see the smarts in this guy.

He won’t even talk about Trump, and hangs up the phone if I bring his name up. He thinks the guy is a buffoon. I say, give the guy a chance.

Thank you for seeing the light, finally...

[nikos1121]

There is more water available, but the politicians in California had no foresight. The water is there, but they need to plan to capture it.

[Safetgiver]

Seriously, how can you have a drought in a freakin’ desert? Isn’t that what it is there for? Las Vegas, California, etc. We need more water!!! No, you need less swimming pools and PEOPLE.

[V K Lee]

And how surprised WTP will be to find he'll not be flying around on a plane that has the tag "President Elect" as another was want to do. Go! TRiUMPh

[grania]

Would the drought have had the impact it has without the mismanagement? Then there's increased water use from swelling the state's population with invaders.

The example Trump used was of some water resources being diverted to the ocean to save an endangered 3 inch long fish. That's insane.

[LS]

Caused in large part by the environmental whackos discharging fresh water into the ocean

[Patriot Babe]

Yes, however it is the Californians who keep voting in these morons, except for a few us. Nothing will change until they are all removed from Sacramento.