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Seattle could open housing for homeless where it’s OK to use heroin
Seattle Times ^

Posted on 08/24/2016 6:50:38 AM PDT by Al Gore Vidal

The Heroin Task Force formed by Seattle Mayor Ed Murray and King County Executive Dow Constantine has endorsed opening safe-consumption sites for addicts, which would be a first in the U.S. But some say getting homeless addicts off the streets requires an even bolder move.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: addiction; bluezones; bums; homeless; seattle; share; urban; wheel
I wrote a comment predicting that this was coming five years ago. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2729674/posts

The next logical step for the government is to supply the heroin via a dispensary located in the "user friendly" housing complex.This may sound far fetched but the logic is there and will go something like this: After creating a environment where it's OK to use heroin the government wants to leverage this power over the addict in order to get them on methadone in order kick the habit. But if the addict doesn't want to go the methadone route they will be forced to leave the facility because it makes more sense to use the space for people who would potentially want to try and get off the drug. So they kick out the committed addict and bring in a new one and the process starts all over again.

But the social engineers will not be satisfied. They will want to be able to convince the committed addicts as well as those who genuinely want to quit. And in order to gain leverage over those committed users who have no interest in quitting, and only use the housing because it provides a safe, comfortable place to indulge their addiction the social engineers will propose supplying the heroin itself in addition to a safe place to use it. They will be able to source the heroin from a pharma company,thereby assuring it's quality and potency and avoiding any accidental overdoses which are common on the street. Once they start supply the heroin they will have total control over the addicts. At that point the argument will be made that it will be easier to force addicts to begin treatment to stop using because of the power afforded by being their dealers.

But this approach fail because their will always be addicts who cannot be convinced to try and quit and they will simply leave the facility when the daily dope rations get to small or stop altogether.

The next logical step, the social engineers will argue, is to allow the committed addicts to stay even though they will not attempt to get clean. They will say it will be safer for the addicts and society as a whole if the government just keeps them corralled in a facility, providing everything they need so that they do not go out into the world and commit crime for money to buy their dope. The hope will be that a certain percentage of the addicts will take advantage of the opportunity providing by the facility and attempt to quit. The rest will either stay and have the amount of heroin they use be controlled by the government and/or will simply leave once that amount is no longer enough to get them as high as they want to be.

The ongoing existence of these facilities will be justified by the fact that some addicts are able to successfully quit while staying in them. But I predict that these individuals will represent a very small percentage of the total population living in the facilities, and in fact the facilities will actually increase substantially the overall number of addicts and in the big picture exacerbate and institutionalize the scourge of heroin addiction. But this will not matter to the social engineers.

This may sound far fetched. But we are already at the point where the social engineers are pushing for the creation and funding of housing for addicts where it will be expected, in fact encouraged, to openly continue their drug use. Not to long ago, this very idea would've sounded absolutely ridiculous and nonsensical to be taken seriously. But here we are... and it's being proposed.

1 posted on 08/24/2016 6:50:38 AM PDT by Al Gore Vidal
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To: Al Gore Vidal

They already have a place for that. Its called SHARE/WHEEL. Its run by marxists and supported by taxpayer dollars!


2 posted on 08/24/2016 6:51:25 AM PDT by mainestategop (DonÂ’t Let Freedom Slip Away! After America , There is No Place to Go)
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To: mainestategop
Have scott morrow put in charge. He'll do wonders like with Nickelsville and SHare


3 posted on 08/24/2016 6:53:52 AM PDT by mainestategop (DonÂ’t Let Freedom Slip Away! After America , There is No Place to Go)
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To: mainestategop
I received a flash political message from a fraternal organization. Seems the Congress is moving on redoing the federal sentencing structure to more liberalize it. As a group, the principal federal enforcement personnel and US Attorneys across the country are dead against this idea.

I wonder why these jerks are taking this up now?? Is this another GOPe initiative. Probably and it has to be stopped.

4 posted on 08/24/2016 6:55:52 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws maintain the status quo now.)
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To: Mouton
Here's the Housing Projects Theme Song ...

Mr. Brownstone

I used ta do a little but a little wouldn't do so the little got more and more
5 posted on 08/24/2016 7:02:07 AM PDT by Scythian_Reborn
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To: Al Gore Vidal

They will use till they die.

If the do good ears don’t provide enough the junkies will still go out and steal to meet their habit


6 posted on 08/24/2016 7:05:03 AM PDT by Nifster (Ignore all polls. Get Out The Vote)
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To: Al Gore Vidal

A great victory for the FR drug advocates.


7 posted on 08/24/2016 7:14:05 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (Nuke Saudi Arabia now)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

They should offer free overdoses to all.


8 posted on 08/24/2016 7:15:55 AM PDT by oldasrocks (rump)
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To: Al Gore Vidal

Government run shooting galleries.


9 posted on 08/24/2016 7:19:31 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (Fear is the mind killer.)
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To: headstamp 2

Free housing and a $15 minimum wage. Nirvana!


10 posted on 08/24/2016 7:52:38 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: Al Gore Vidal

The government in Seattle is supporting a group of people who are ruining their health and are not producing anything. Doomed to failure.
Anybody stupid enough to live in Seattle is paying for this.


11 posted on 08/24/2016 8:15:50 AM PDT by I want the USA back (The media is acting full-on as the Democratic PartyÂ’s press agency now: Robert Spencer.)
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To: Al Gore Vidal

Why do we have laws?


12 posted on 08/24/2016 8:33:37 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: NTHockey

...in order to selectively harass you if you speak up or cause “trouble”. That’s why. Our criminal government and criminal “leaders” have you where they want you.


13 posted on 08/24/2016 9:30:59 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?.)
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To: Nifster

Right, so it may actually be cheaper for a city to house these H addicts and even provide them their dope than to repeatedly give them ambulance rides to the hospital, short term rehabs, deal with the costs of their theiving, etc.

Unless you’re willing to just them die in the gutter, they have to be dealt with in some way. Certainly the law enforcement approach hasn’t been very productive.

I still don’t understand what causes people to start using opiates recreationally. I can understand people who get hooked on opiate painkillers provided as treatment for pain, but other than those, why would anyone start this stuff? Do they think they’re different than everyone else? “Oh, I won’t get hooked.” Although, I suppose everyone doesn’t get hooked (some probably don’t like the feeling of an opiate “high”), anymore than everyone who drinks ends up an alcoholic.


14 posted on 08/24/2016 9:35:54 AM PDT by -YYZ- (Strong like bull, smart like tractor.)
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To: -YYZ-

“Unless you’re willing to just them die in the gutter.... I am


15 posted on 08/24/2016 1:42:30 PM PDT by Nifster (Ignore all polls. Get Out The Vote)
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To: hal ogen

But only so long as we obey. When lawlessness is all around you and the lawless are not punished, incentive to obey decreases exponentially.


16 posted on 08/24/2016 1:47:25 PM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: Nifster

Yeah, that should have been “let them die in the gutter”.

I don’t think most people are OK with that here. Maybe in some third world country where everyone’s on the edge of survival half the time anyway, but not here.


17 posted on 08/24/2016 3:15:47 PM PDT by -YYZ- (Strong like bull, smart like tractor.)
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To: -YYZ-

You seem to think an addict will stay where you put them. They won’t. They die in the gutter


18 posted on 08/24/2016 3:33:46 PM PDT by Nifster (Ignore all polls. Get Out The Vote)
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