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USC Dornsife/LA Times Election Poll: Trump lead widens day after debate
USC Dornsife ^ | September 28, 2016

Posted on 09/28/2016 12:13:57 AM PDT by BlueStateRightist

This chart tracks our best estimate, over time, of how America plans to vote in November.

(Excerpt) Read more at cesrusc.org ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016debates; 2016polls; clinton; election; elections; hillary; poll; polls; trump; trumplandslidecoming
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To: KavMan

The MSM and Democrats still can’t understand Americans have turned their backs on Hillary.

In that sense, the election is over. They’re in shock and in denial about happened.

The debate changed the picture by making it acceptable for people to vote for Trump.

As for what was the CW, its been dead for some time now.


61 posted on 09/28/2016 5:18:45 AM PDT by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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To: nathanbedford
As to looking to the House and Senate, even if Donald Trump has an epiphany and wants to cut spending, do we really have any hope that Mitch McConnell will go along? He already has scheduled votes on the budget post election in the lame-duck time so that he can increase spending.

Here's the thing - we know the GOPers in the House and Senate are weak, easily intimidated, and creatures of self interest.

Weakness doesn't only work one way, it works in all ways.

If Obama could push them around, so can Trump.

62 posted on 09/28/2016 5:20:18 AM PDT by Ted Grant
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To: flaglady47
Why would you recommend that anybody vote for Hillary Clinton, especially to save money?


63 posted on 09/28/2016 5:22:58 AM PDT by nathanbedford
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To: BlueStateRightist

Even if Trump goes up in the polls everywhere this week, the media will report the event as “even although losing the debate...”


64 posted on 09/28/2016 5:28:48 AM PDT by MNDude (God is not a Republican, but Satan is certainly a Democrat.)
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To: guido911
Probably just need another major newspaper that has never endorsed a democrat before come out with another HRC endorsement. That might sway things...

Some Arizona newspaper endorsed her, I don't know what their record is, but the fact that it anyone is talking about it must mean something.

It's cute how these newspapers think anyone values their opinions anymore. Breaking some big no-Democrat-endorsing history for f-ing Hillary Clinton just says to me they're not serious.

65 posted on 09/28/2016 5:30:09 AM PDT by Trump20162020
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To: nathanbedford

“...massive increase in spending on infrastructure ...”

Would that not result in massive construction jobs being created? We do need to cut wasteful federal entitlements, a bloated bureaucracy, etc. and Trump clearly prides himself on keeping unnecessary costs down; look at how well he has kept spending under control in these primaries and the current campaign. The government’s (only) role is to protect us and to maintain our infrastructure.

Spending on construction jobs for real/actual badly needed infrastructure projects and doing it right (without padding and corruption and favors to certain contractors etc.), ought to be considered a plus for Trump. Trump knows how to build and knows how to stay on budget; construction is his expertise.


66 posted on 09/28/2016 5:30:20 AM PDT by stonehouse01
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To: nathanbedford

The Congress only authorizes spending: it is the executive which performs it.
And if Mr. (soon to be President) Trump, who is known for his economy on projects, fails to spend as much as has been allotted, then the deficit will not grow as much as ‘planned’ by the Dem moles within the GOP.

I don’t know if they believe the Republic is doomed and are just partying on the Titanic or whether they’re literal traitors who bought into Coward-Piven.


67 posted on 09/28/2016 5:30:40 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: oblomov
I live in Manhattan, and over the weekend someone actually asked me if the NYT endorsement of $hillary would sway the election in battleground states like PA, MI, and WI.

Almost forgotten is that Romney's battleground states were Florida, Ohio, and NC, of which he only won NC, and that by an eyelash. Mr. Trump is definitely moving the balance point.

68 posted on 09/28/2016 5:32:28 AM PDT by Interesting Times (WinterSoldier.com. SwiftVets.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)
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To: BlueStateRightist
I love this, although I'd hate to live and die by one poll, I've checked them daily to look at the internals.

The bothersome thing is their "prediction" poll. Most respondents -- including many Trump voters -- think Hillary is going to win. We need to change that perception so it doesn't become a reality!

69 posted on 09/28/2016 5:35:32 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That’s right up there with: “The operation was a success. The patient died.” Happens.


70 posted on 09/28/2016 5:36:13 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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To: nathanbedford

“Donald tramp”

FOAD, Nathan.


71 posted on 09/28/2016 5:37:25 AM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: NYC-RepublicanCT

“Progressives? I’d say they are marxists”

Is there a difference?


72 posted on 09/28/2016 5:43:37 AM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: techno
Also Trump’s margin with male voters over HC went up +2.8 from +17.0 to +19.8 in 1 day.

My current GF made a comment..what guy would vote for Hillary. I added, your ex-BF Steve, your words a blubbering, Beta male weenie whose aggressive passive\agressiveness was the by-product of an overbearing middle manager single Mother and sweater vest pussy absent Dad who was off "Finding himself". To a T this is a male Hilary voter, the orbiting, wimp-man who gets cheated on regularly by women who say they want a sensitive guy but really want a man who takes charge.

73 posted on 09/28/2016 5:44:31 AM PDT by pburgh01
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To: Paradox

Dittos! Me too....89 million watched ...something bad or good will come out of that! I’m hoping for the latter!


74 posted on 09/28/2016 5:45:34 AM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: stonehouse01; grey_whiskers
The problem with government spending on infrastructure as a means of increasing employment is that for every dollar spent one dollar is extracted from the private economy and the private economy, therefore, has one dollar less with which to innovate and create more employment.

Presumably, the private sector will create more jobs with that dollar than will the government for a number of reasons. The private sector is much more efficient because inefficiencies are simply cleaned out of the marketplace by competition. The government is less efficient because it is bound up by rules and regulations which, unfortunately, a president Trump cannot circumvent which are designed not to be efficient but to accomplish other political goals such as bringing pork to the districts at home. Finally, government spending is often spent on an inappropriate purpose such as solar panels. Worse, the solar panels were funded because they made political contributions so there are potential for massive distortions of the economy.

All in all, infrastructure spending by government is an inefficient way to grow the economy. It may be that infrastructure should be improved but that is a decision which should be made on its own merits not as a job producing measure or sold as such.

It might be argued that the dollar which is taken out of the economy for government spending is not actually taken out of the economy in today's world of mega-deficits and mega debts, the dollar is merely added to an imaginary debt which we all know will never be paid off anyway. I leave that conundrum to those who want to consider the coming apocalypse.

The Democrats are not stupid in the IQ sense, they are aware of the dangers posed by our debt overhang yet they persist in extending the debt and obstructing every reasonable effort to contain it. Why? I think we have to take one step back before Cloward and Piven and look at The Frankfurt School with its doctrine of "critical theory" which borders on nihilism and which provides the rationale to bring down the Temple. Not incidentally, it also provides the rationale for the flag salute protests.


75 posted on 09/28/2016 5:48:44 AM PDT by nathanbedford
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To: BlueStateRightist
Debates are so overrated. Usually the candidate who "outdebates" the other candidate is hailed by the MSM as the victor but what the people at home are looking for are intangibles, such as "can I picture this person as my president".

I still remember the 1988 debates. Mike Dukakis had every answer perfectly memorized and appeared that he was reading verbatim from policy papers. He came out of that first debate honestly thinking he "nailed it". But the way he so clinically and mechanically handled each question with precision - especially the hypothetical rape question - turned everybody at home off.

Nobody wants a policy wonk to be their president. They want somebody more charismatic with a commanding presence, somebody who sucks the air out of the room when they enter it. JFK had it. Ronald Reagan had it. Donald Trump has it in spades. When he walks into a room - he owns it.

76 posted on 09/28/2016 5:50:29 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (It is a wise man who rules by the polls but it is a fool who is ruled by them)
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To: Windflier
I assure you that was a typographical error caused by Dragon Naturally Speaking software which I did not catch on the proofread.

Incidentally, what does FOAD mean?


77 posted on 09/28/2016 5:52:25 AM PDT by nathanbedford
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To: NYC-RepublicanCT

Liberals have become Leninists, longing to start campaigns of violence and murder against political opponents. The destruction of the middle class (’bourgeoisie’), both financial power and moral outlook, is a primary goal.


78 posted on 09/28/2016 5:52:25 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Windflier

Most “progressives” are dilettantes, sip coffee, debate ideas, and wish people like Trump would go away while they drive their BMW home.

Marxists are waiting for the revolution to start, they intend to kill you (and any insufficiently enthusiastic progressives) and/or take your stuff.

While we have a distressing number of progressives in this country, the number of Marxists is fairly low, and conservatives outnumber them and are better armed.


79 posted on 09/28/2016 5:52:33 AM PDT by drop 50 and fire for effect ("Work relentlessly, accomplish much, remain in the background, and be more than you seem.)
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To: nathanbedford

Ted Cruz lost..please, please get over it.


80 posted on 09/28/2016 5:52:37 AM PDT by pburgh01
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