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1 posted on 10/17/2016 12:42:42 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Perhaps a utility bill or a student i.d. would suffice? (Good enough for elections.)


2 posted on 10/17/2016 12:45:03 PM PDT by fwdude (If we keep insisting on the lesser of two evils, that is exactly what they will give us from now on.)
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Don’t worry about voting, though.

You don’t need any form of ID for that.


3 posted on 10/17/2016 12:47:01 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Vote GOP: A Slower Handbasket)
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...but you can vote 8 times


4 posted on 10/17/2016 12:48:32 PM PDT by Doogle (( USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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Racist! They are suppressing minorities from being able to fly or enter federal buildings, since obviously they have no ID of any kind...


5 posted on 10/17/2016 12:48:36 PM PDT by Mannaggia l'America
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I don’t understand why this has to happen, why certain states licenses are not allowed for federal purposes. And why it’s important.

A number of states give drivers licenses to illegal aliens and legal immigrants now. So a state ID is no longer, if it ever was, any sort of proof of citizenship.

This law evolved out of 9/11. I don’t know about the ID of Mohammad Atta and his boys, but I assume that they, as all foreign visitors, used their foreign issued passports as ID. So if the goal is to have positive ID of people, we still have to depend on how other countries deal with passports, relating to foreign students and tourists.

So, bottom line, for no good reason, Pennsylvania residents will need to get a US passport to get on a plane?? Is this really helping all of our security to force them to do this????


6 posted on 10/17/2016 12:49:57 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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Not sure about the rest of the rebel states, but Missouri indeed requires birth certificate, SSN and current utility address ( for normal citizens) and naturalization records for immigrants, so indeed we do meet the strictest ID requirements, the rub is, however, that MO will not copy and forward these documents to the fedgov as part of REAL ID.

The fedgov already gets tax records, employment details, investment and banking data so it is not hard to realize the fedgov is databasing all this information for something- not sure what....

Since I no longer fly, I suppose it is a moot issue- however, a MO DL will not get you onto a federal installation- so visitors to such places may be in for a surprise unless they have a passport or some other “good” gov id form.

Maybe Trump will undo this charade.


7 posted on 10/17/2016 12:52:01 PM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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The U.S. Department of Homeland Security rejected requests from Oklahoma, Kentucky, Maine, Pennsylvania and South Carolina.


8 posted on 10/17/2016 12:52:18 PM PDT by conejo99
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But you can still vote.


9 posted on 10/17/2016 12:54:09 PM PDT by dfwgator
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Neither will KY.


10 posted on 10/17/2016 12:54:11 PM PDT by Mr. Douglas (Today is your life. What are you going to do with it?)
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Don't worry though, you can still vote ...



Damn ...
15 posted on 10/17/2016 1:03:07 PM PDT by Scythian_Reborn
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Five states do not want to confirm identity. Too bad for them and their travels. They’ve had long enough to get ID up to a basic minimum standard. Next, lets use that ID for voting!


16 posted on 10/17/2016 1:08:46 PM PDT by Reno89519 (Trump/Pence or Crooked Hillary & Kreepy, The Pedo Klown)
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I am a black voter and/or illegal immigrant.

All you need to say.


17 posted on 10/17/2016 1:11:15 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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The feds know government cannot prevent terrorism so they at least try to present the illusion they can, while turning all of us into suspects & making life a general pain in the ass.


21 posted on 10/17/2016 1:14:20 PM PDT by gdani
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They’ll postpone it... again.


22 posted on 10/17/2016 1:14:52 PM PDT by discostu (If you need to load or unload go to the white zone, you'll love it, it's a way of life)
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Brilliant......sigh


23 posted on 10/17/2016 1:17:48 PM PDT by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVERALL)
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It isn’t just those states. Come 1 June 2017, Alaska,
California, Oregon, Virginia IDs aka Driver’s licenses will not be compliant.

Check the latest re your state from the Homeland link below:

https://www.dhs.gov/current-status-states-territories


24 posted on 10/17/2016 1:18:34 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (We are not electing a saint. We are electing an ass kicker! Vote for Trump! Defeat Illiarily!)
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which would make IDs counterfeit-proof

NOTHING is counterfeit proof.
Things can be made extremely hard to counterfeit but anything one man can make can be made by an other man somewhere, somehow.........


28 posted on 10/17/2016 1:44:12 PM PDT by 48th SPS Crusader (I am an American. Not a Republican or a Democrat)
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New Mexico was to begin issuing Real ID compliant driver’s licenses today (10/17) but because of the (usual) bureaucracy they won’t be ready until early next year. The state got a 90-day extension to issue the new ones, but in essence it allows current holders to use existing licenses until October 1, 2020. Mine expires next November, but I’ll have to provide my passport when I renew to provide citizenship. Those non-citizens (including illegals) can get a driver’s license but it won’t be legal for flying or entering government facilities.


30 posted on 10/17/2016 1:59:38 PM PDT by CedarDave (Democrats, socialists, progressives all hooked on OPM - Other Peoples Money.)
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The current Texas drivers' licenses will be adequate for boarding aircraft till October 1, 2020, but the Texas DPS just started issuing drivers's licenses compatible with post October 1, 2020 standards last week on October 10, 2016. I could get my driver's license converted before it expires in 2021, but I won't go to the expense. I already have a book passport and passport card that are good beyond the date of my next driver's license renewal.

DPS Submits Plan for Federal Real ID Act

The Texas Department of Public Safety (DPS) has submitted a plan to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) that keeps Texas compliant with REAL ID laws.

All Texas Driver License Cards and Identification Cards are currently acceptable to use for REAL ID purposes, such as getting into federal buildings and for use to board domestic flights. It is expected that all documents now issued will remain acceptable until October 1, 2020.

The REAL ID Act is a federal law passed by Congress after 9/11 that establishes specific federal requirements for state-issued driver license and identity cards to be accepted for certain federal purposes, like entering a federal building or boarding a domestic flight. Although it was passed in 2005, it will not fully go into effect until 2020.

Texas residents will be able to come to a DPS Driver License office with proof of identity, state residency, U.S. citizenship or lawful presence in the U.S. and obtain a REAL ID license or ID card when DPS begins producing the new REAL ID documents on October 10, 2016.

Under the plan submitted to DHS, DPS will issue REAL ID compliant Driver License and Identification cards: REAL ID DL and ID cards – These cards will be marked with a star and can be used as the sole ID for domestic flights and to access federal buildings. Texans can continue to use their standard licenses until they expire or until October 1, 2020; whichever comes first. Texans can come into any DPS office to get REAL ID licenses, before their current licenses expire. If not already on file, Texans will need to present proof of identity, U.S. citizenship or lawful presence in the U.S., and state residency to obtain REAL ID compliant cards. Cost will be the same as current cost for a Driver License or Identification Card.

Texas residents holding non-compliant card after October 1, 2020 will not be able to board domestic flights or access federal buildings without a secondary proof of identification approved by DHS.

Frequently asked questions about REAL ID can be found on the DHS website.


31 posted on 10/17/2016 2:48:49 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not really out to get you.)
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The Pheonix, AZ airport doesn’t accept drivers licenses or medical cards for years. If you have medical implants, you have to go behind a screen and drop drawers.


33 posted on 10/17/2016 3:58:22 PM PDT by bgill (From the CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola")
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