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Ensuring Electoral Integrity in 2020
American Thinker ^ | November 10, 2016 | Paul Murphy

Posted on 11/10/2016 6:27:15 AM PST by Kaslin

Al Franken cast the decisive 60th senate vote passing Obamacare and virtually everyone now agrees that his initial election in 2008 was achieved through judicially assisted electoral fraud; Clinton buddy Terry McAuliffe was almost certainly elected by felons and illegals; and my personal prediction is that historians will eventually agree that Obama lost the 2012 presidential election to Romney by about 2.5% of the legal vote.

Democracy depends on the integrity of the secret ballot process and fraud, whether mostly real and extensive or mostly imaginary and minor, cannot be accepted. Electoral reform has to find a place near the top of the new administration's priorities list.

In my pre-retirement life as an info-tech management consultant I generally used and praised products from a company called Sun MicroSystems. Sun revolutionized computing, but came under continual attack from more traditional players like IBM and Microsoft and was eventually forced (mainly, in my opinion, because they hired too many people from failed competitors and then listened to them) to sell its assets into a shelter provided by Oracle Corporation which, much to its credit, has maintained them since.

The reason this matters now is that Sun had, uniquely in its industry, the technology needed to prevent electoral fraud in the United States while dramatically reducing the cost of running elections.

The elections management process looks simple: make a list of voters, prepare the ballots, and check off each voter as they fill out and return exactly one ballot.

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To: justlurking

Yep, I see the credit card analogy with respect to voting security. You’re right, our voting systems assume people are basically honest. Liberals though, for whatever personal ethics they may have, have a strong totalitarian streak. Which extends to them wanting to control the outcome of elections so that liberals get elected.


21 posted on 11/10/2016 6:55:02 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Gaffer

Agreed. Changing the Constitution is not the solution to our problems, voting fraud or otherwise.

Our problem is corruption. Period.

Rooting out corruption would resolve our voting problems, our problems with the DOJ, IRS, the Congress and just about everything else from labor unions to the school teachers union.

This election was really about corruption. Certainly everyone has an issue that was of vital interest to them. To some it was the military. To others, abortion. To others, national security....and so on.

But to almost everyone there was the issue of corruption.

Trump must clean house.


22 posted on 11/10/2016 6:55:19 AM PST by old curmudgeon
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To: old curmudgeon

For one thing, the new AG should have a task force devoted to making the states purge their voter rolls for ineligible voters.


23 posted on 11/10/2016 7:01:34 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Dilbert San Diego
There’s a developing liberal meme, that “Hillary won the popular vote”.

It doesn't matter. It's really easy to shut these people down.

The Electoral College was designed by the Founding Fathers to prevent the Presidential election from turning into a popularity contest.

In this election, that's what exactly happened: the blue states had a very high margin for Hillary. But, the red states had a lower margin for Trump. And unexpected states turned purple, like Minnesota.

The EC was a compromise between the low-population and high-population states. They were (rightly) concerned that the high-population states could overwhelm the less-populated states, leaving them with no representation in the Presidency.

A Presidential candidate must build a coalition of states with a majority of electoral votes, campaigning and proposing policies that will appear to a set of states with a majority of EVs.

"But, my vote doesn't matter because I live in a deep red state! They don't even campaign here!"

No, your vote matters -- because the candidates must propose (and enact) policies that benefit a coalition of states. Otherwise, those states will turn purple, or the opposite color.

24 posted on 11/10/2016 7:02:03 AM PST by justlurking (#TurnOffCNN)
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To: Gaffer
Definitely NOT decision by national popular vote. No way, no how!

If we had decision by popular vote we'd be talking about President-elect Clinton right now.

25 posted on 11/10/2016 7:03:33 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: 1Old Pro
Trump has the advantage that these Dem senators up for re-election will need to vote for his policies because they will be popular and successful.

Perhaps. But, the leftist media will be trashing Trump constantly.

The low-information leftist voters won't be able (and won't want) to see through the lies, and realize the truth.

26 posted on 11/10/2016 7:03:47 AM PST by justlurking (#TurnOffCNN)
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To: justlurking

It is not enough to have a good system of ID. We need strong, nationwide laws protecting Poll Watchers.

I was a Poll Watcher in Early Voting. The Election Judge would not allow me to stand behind the Clerk checking voter IDs to see if they matched the book. He said that this would be “intimidation”.

So, the dim activists came in and claimed to be someone else. The Clerk KNEW the activist personally and allowed them to impersonate the voter.

This is a favorite method for massive vote fraud now.

Poll Watchers in national elections MUST have the right to observe everything in the Polling Place as well as how ballots and computers are handled after the election.


27 posted on 11/10/2016 7:09:44 AM PST by darth
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To: justlurking

That’s true. But also keep in mind that a sizable number (10, I think) of the 23 Democratic seats up for election in 2018 are in states that Trump won in 2016. From what I can see, only two GOP seats (Nevada and Arizona) are potentially vulnerable.


28 posted on 11/10/2016 7:10:00 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Yo, bartender -- Jobu needs a refill!")
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To: Kaslin

Outlaw early voting and mail in voting. All voters must show ID’s. If necessary make voting in person a two day event.


29 posted on 11/10/2016 7:11:32 AM PST by TruthWillWin (The problem with socialists is that you eventually run out of other peoples money.)
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To: TruthWillWin

There are good reasons for doing these things and feasible ways of assuring their integrity.

What might be stressed to PEOPLE, however, is a plea that if one CAN cast one’s vote in person on Election Day, one SHOULD. The law requires that employers accommodate this. And when the POPULAR vote is counted, if the in-person results are such that the held-back early vote would be moot, those other votes aren’t added to the popular vote. This can have the effect of making mandates look less firm than they really are.


30 posted on 11/10/2016 7:15:04 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Alberta's Child
But also keep in mind that a sizable number (10, I think) of the 23 Democratic seats up for election in 2018 are in states that Trump won in 2016.

Historically, the party in the White House loses seats in the mid-term election.

In 1994, it was enough to put both the House and Senate back in control of the Republicans, for the first time in decades. It happened again (for the Democrats) in 2006, and again (for the Republicans) in 2010.

The map may appear to favor Republicans, but it may be the Democrats ready to crawl over broken glass to vote against Trump's agenda.

If Republicans aren't satisfied with Trump's progress, they may stay home.

31 posted on 11/10/2016 7:16:27 AM PST by justlurking (#TurnOffCNN)
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To: justlurking
Two things about the Electoral College make for a complete disconnect between the way it was designed and the way it operates today:

1. If you read the Constitution, it looks like it was written with the expectation that candidates wouldn't usually get a clear majority in the Electoral College -- and presidents would usually be elected in the special elections in Congress for those cases.

2. It wasn't until the 1920s before all of the U.S. states selected Electoral College electors through popular votes. Before that, electors were selected through different measures -- including state legislatures, popular votes, etc.

32 posted on 11/10/2016 7:16:31 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Yo, bartender -- Jobu needs a refill!")
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To: darth

So a pair of telescopic eyeglasses? If there was evidence or suspicion of cheating, Donald had a hotline.


33 posted on 11/10/2016 7:17:20 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: justlurking

The difference this time, perhaps, will be that there will be a live wire in the White House, not a flat tire. He ought to be watching for ways to guard his Congress, and likely will.


34 posted on 11/10/2016 7:18:24 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Alberta's Child

People like winning, though, which is why we have our party oligarchy.


35 posted on 11/10/2016 7:19:38 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: justlurking
All of that is true. One thing to keep in mind is that some of these major transformations (including the 1994 landslides for the GOP) were driven by demographic shifts and re-apportionment of Congressional districts after the most recent census.

When I have time I am going to back and research this, but I suspect this country has seen more dramatic shifts in Congress early in a decade than later in a decade.

36 posted on 11/10/2016 7:19:52 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Yo, bartender -- Jobu needs a refill!")
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To: HiTech RedNeck

It’s really the two-party system that has driven this. I think this country would be much closer to what the founders envisioned if we had three or more viable political parties that could hold at least 20% of the seats in Congress (both houses) and get 50+ electoral votes in a presidential election.


37 posted on 11/10/2016 7:22:12 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Yo, bartender -- Jobu needs a refill!")
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Yes, absentee ballots should be allowed but only if appropriate.


38 posted on 11/10/2016 7:23:27 AM PST by TruthWillWin (The problem with socialists is that you eventually run out of other peoples money.)
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To: Kaslin

Implement a nationwide voter ID law. End of discussion.


39 posted on 11/10/2016 7:27:21 AM PST by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: Alberta's Child

THat’s what my son says.


40 posted on 11/10/2016 7:37:18 AM PST by taterjay
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