Posted on 12/07/2016 11:24:34 PM PST by granada
If you thought Donald Trump was the face of Americas anti-establishment movement, hold on to your chapeaus: A wild wind is rising.
Want to know whats more anti-establishment than a president-elect who refuses to play by the rules? How about similarly spirited electors going AWOL and sending someone else to the Oval Office?
Could it happen? Might.
A movement headed by a mostly Democratic group calling itself Hamilton Electors is trying to persuade Republican electors to defect not to cede the election to Hillary Clinton but to join with Democrats in selecting a compromise candidate, such as Mitt Romney or John Kasich. It wouldnt be that hard to do.
Mathematically, only 37 of Trumps 306 electors are needed to bring his number down to 269, one less than the 270 needed to secure the presidency.
On the Hamilton Electors Facebook page, elector Bret Chiafalo, a Democrat from Washington, explains the purpose of the electoral college. If you havent previously been a fan of the electoral system, you might become one.
Bottom line: The Founding Fathers didnt fully trust democracy, fearing mob rule, and so created a republic. They correctly worried that a pure democracy could result in the election of a demagogue (ahem), or a charismatic autocrat (ahem), or someone under foreign influence (ditto), hence the rule that a president must have been born in the United States. We know how seriously Trump takes the latter.
Most important among the founders criteria for a president was that he (or now she) be qualified. Thus, the electoral college was created as a braking system that would, if necessary, save the country from an individual such as, frankly, Trump.
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To what end? Crooked Hillary got the majority of the popular vote in Colorado. 1,212,209 vs. Trump's 1,137,455
If that happened, it would stop everything in this nation. Trump’s supporters are totally committed and many of those who didn’t vote are totally committed, as well, to our system which keeps our freedom intact. You know what grates me? What grates me is that I have come to depend on Amazon for most of my online purchases. I spend a lot of money there, especially at Christmas and Jeff Bezos, the owner of Amazon, and now the owner of the Washington Post, seems to have devoted his paper to destroying my nation through urging people to disobey it’s fundamental order, via reporters like this woman. May they all perish along with us, if their fondest evil dreams come true. I do not like feeling this way, but these people are on my last nerve!
Yes, that’s exactly what they’re trying to do. Won’t work though.
The electors in that state are trying to organize a coalition gainst Trump by getting more lectors to turn. Hey are probably going own the list looking for anyone other than "white" to team up on in conference calls and flip them.
They don’t fear Trump because he’s a Republican.
They fear him because he is NOT a Republican.
He took over the party, now it’s the Trumpican party and that means REAL change.
Seriously.
Them and thousands of others. There was a spate of faithless elector stories in Bush v. Gore too. 15 minutes of fame and all that.
Faithless electors will be forgotten soon, just like the Stein recount. Big news for a few weeks (mush for the mob), then move on to another fabricated outrage.
If, perchance, something new was revealed about a candidate (e.g., if the #pizzagate controversy was validated and the Hildabeast was directly implicated), then, sure, I could see a possibility of changing around a vote. That is certainly not the case here.
However, to utterly reverse the will of the voters because the elector feels queasy, not a chance.
Art Sisneros did the right thing: he could not, in good conscience, vote for Trump in the electoral college, so he resigned -- I don't agree with him, but I can respect him following his conscience and stepping aside so another could be appointed in his place. This Christopher Suprun asshat, along with any of his colleagues, are doing the exact opposite.
If that were to actually happen, after the smoked cleared, it would never happen again. I mean, you would never find an elector who would even consider doing it.
What does it say about Mitt Romney if the Democrats are willing to vote for him?
Kathleen Parker is a fake conservative.
These guys are probably the type that do research online to find the perfect TV or computer for weeks then buys them, takes them home, then sees something else out there brighter and shinier and has buyer's remorse and takes them back.
The term of choice, if electors can be bought and intimidated into changing their vote, is “coup d’état”.
It’s not “irony”; it’s “projection”.
OK I’ll bite: what rules?
Sigh - after 9-11, Kathleen started sounding rather conservative and all gushy about how Republicans were safer for her kids, etc. Looks like she went waaaaaaay off the deep end.
Sedition.
The electoral system has thus far saved us from a socialist demigod. Electors are not in that position to render their enlightened opinion. They are to ceremoniously execute the will of the electorate of their particular state.
A member of the House seconded by a member of the Senate can object throwing the election to the House of Representatives.
Kathleen amd the rest of her media “trump will never be President” buddies should stop printing the political fantasy porn and realize who holds the ultimate Trump card.
January 6 the full congress meets to weigh electoral vote objections and votes on whether to retain them or discard them.
I guess the left has redefined yet another word. It is an interesting new definition of the word “only”. In the entire history of US Presidential elections, there has been a total of 177 faithless electors. Of these, 71 failed to vote for the pledged candidate because the candidate died prior to the EC vote. Another 68 involved electors who voted for theor pledged Presidential candidate but were faithless in their VP vote. That leaves a grand total of 38 electors who were truly faithless in their Presidential vote in our entire history. The Dems “only” need to get one less faithless elector in this election than there have been in the previous 55 combined!
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