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When cops encounter knives, shooting is not the only option (barf alert)
Chicag Tribune ^ | 6 apr 2017 | Steve Chapman

Posted on 04/06/2017 8:28:18 AM PDT by rellimpank

The man in the Camden, N.J., police video is practically begging to be shot. After using a knife to menace a cashier and a customer in a fast-food restaurant, he strides down a street slashing at the air as police repeatedly order him to drop his weapon. The man keeps walking, defiantly waving the knife.

Several cops form a ring around him and move along at a safe distance, block after block. This goes on for several tense minutes, as the viewer waits for shots to ring out. But they never do. Eventually, the man drops the knife and is collared.

It's a reasonably happy outcome. Had the 2015 incident occurred a year earlier, before the department adopted new tactics, "we would more than likely have deployed deadly force and moved on," Chief J. Scott Thomson told The New York Times. Instead, the offender survived, and no cop had to deal with the trauma of killing him.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglsit; cops; liberallogic; newjersey; police; rkba; stupidpeople
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To: rellimpank

You could try to tase them but that doesn’t always take an assailant down. I would rather keep cops safe so that they can continue to keep others safe. And cops lives are worth something in themselves.


61 posted on 04/06/2017 10:50:34 AM PDT by Crucial
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To: chris37

Steve Chapman ==> See top of post: Author of the original Chicago Tribune article.


62 posted on 04/06/2017 10:59:47 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: chris37
Yes, but of course not as effective as a stout fixed blade knife.

Agreed, but in New Jersey if I carry a knife for self defense and am forced to use it, I go to prison just like my attacker. But if, when grabbed from behind I pull the pen from my top pocket and drive it through the attacker's eye into his brain...I was unarmed.

But the way lefty prosecutors are these days, having posted this is proof of premeditation if I ever have to do it...but I'll continue to practice anyway. Better tried by 12 than carried by six.

63 posted on 04/06/2017 11:00:45 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Building the Wall! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: rellimpank

If the cops had asked him, “pretty please with sugar on top”, to drop the knife it would have ended quicker.


64 posted on 04/06/2017 11:13:17 AM PDT by bgill (From the CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: JimRed

I’m not sure it’s legal to carry a large fixed blade anywhere unless you are out in the woods camping or something like that.

But yeah, Jersey has some very stupid laws in a country of citizens who have the inalienable right to bear arms.


65 posted on 04/06/2017 11:23:18 AM PDT by chris37 (Donald J. Trump, Tom Brady, The Patriots... American Destiny!)
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To: BlueDragon
They're tacticool.

Only if they're painted black. I wouldn't be caught dead in a throwing star fight with one of those nickel plated sissy shurikens. (props to Tommy Lee Jones in U.S. Marshalls). It's important to maintain tacticool in all aspects of your life.

66 posted on 04/06/2017 11:35:45 AM PDT by FateAmenableToChange
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To: Buckeye Battle Cry
A dozen or so years ago, there was a big collection of bums "camping" in Burlington, VT.

One pulls out a knife, and starts acting weird. Cops show up, and ask/demand that he drop the knife, telling him "...or they'll shoot him with a pepper ball" and take him into custody.

The bum then decides to start superficial carving a bulls eye on his shirtless chest "to make it easier for the cops to aim" - his words.

Not sure if the cops waited for the knife to be out of the way to loose the pepper ball. Just think of the fuss if the ball had hit the back of the hilt, and helped the knife to penetrate deeper.

67 posted on 04/06/2017 12:28:14 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Yo-Yo

The audience in the theater I was watching that movie in burst out in applause and cheering when that scene was shown.


68 posted on 04/06/2017 12:59:39 PM PDT by Calamari (Pass enough laws and everyone is guilty of something.)
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To: FateAmenableToChange
You mean a guy couldn't stick 'em in his hat (to be at the ready) like fishing lures?

So you'd put 'em in a ballistic black velcro pouch too, I'd bet.

Young guys, think they know everything...

69 posted on 04/06/2017 3:21:43 PM PDT by BlueDragon (I came upon Mother Goose So I turned her loose She was screaming)
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To: rawcatslyentist

Arrant illogic and presumptuousness.


70 posted on 04/06/2017 3:39:46 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: murrie

The Indonesian arts is a good way to go,Kali,Escrima,etc. especially useful is the small joint manipulations, and while I have an extensive and expensive knife collection ( just received 3 today, a Southard, a Hoback,and a Shirogorov) my cocobolo fighting sticks are lethal, makes a steel ASP seem like a toy.


71 posted on 04/06/2017 3:45:34 PM PDT by crosdaddy
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To: BlueDragon

Only if the ballistic black velcro pouch was properly labeled with white lettering proclaiming it as a “tactical shuriken pre-deployment storage device”.


72 posted on 04/07/2017 9:15:51 AM PDT by FateAmenableToChange
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