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The Odds of Evolution Are Zero
Townhall.com ^ | JUne 15. 2017 | Jerry Newcombe

Posted on 06/15/2017 12:50:19 PM PDT by Kaslin

Zero times anything is zero. The odds of life just happening by chance are zero.

This universe just springing into being by chance is impossible. It takes a leap of blind faith to believe in evolution, unguided or guided. Of course, there are tiny changes within kinds. It seems to me usually when the evolutionists make their case, they point to these tiny changes.

The analogies to the improbability of evolution by a random process are endless.

A hurricane blows through a junkyard and assembles a fully functioning 747 jet.

Scrabble pieces are randomly spilled out on the board, and they spell out the Declaration of Independence word for word. (Source: Dr. Stephen Meyer, author of Darwin’s Doubt).

A monkey sits at a typewriter and types thousands of pages. He types out word for word, with no mistakes, the entire works of Shakespeare.

The odds against our universe, of the earth, of the creation, to have just come into being with no intelligent design behind the grand scheme are greater than all of these impossible scenarios.

Forget the works of Shakespeare. What are the odds of a monkey randomly typing away simply spelling the 9-letter word “evolution” by chance? That doesn’t sound too hard, does it?

Dr. Scott M. Huse, B.S., M.S., M.R.E., Th.D., Ph.D., who holds graduate degrees in computer science, geology, and theology, wrote a book about creation/evolution back in the early 1980s, The Collapse of Evolution. Huse has done extensive study on these questions of random probability. I had the privilege of interviewing him about it for Dr. D. James Kennedy’s television special, “The Case for Creation” (1988). It was a type of Scopes Trial in reverse---filmed on location in Tennessee, in the very courtroom where the 1925 monkey trial took place.

Later, Huse created a computer program to see what are the odds of a monkey typing the word “evolution”? He notes that the odds are 1 in 5.4 trillion, which statistically is the same thing as zero. Any casino that offered such horrible odds would lose customers quickly, because no one would ever win. Forgive my bluntness, but the suckers have to win something before they start losing big.

Here’s what Scott told me in an email: “The typical personal computer keyboard has 104 keys, most of which are not letters from the alphabet. However, if we ignore that fact and say the monkey can only hit keys that are letters of the alphabet, he has a one in twenty-six chance of hitting the correct letter each time.

“Of course, he has to hit them in the correct sequence as well: E then V then O, etc. Twenty-six to the power of nine (the number of letters in the word “evolution”) equals 5,429,503,678,976.

“So, the odds of him accidentally typing just the 9-letter word ‘evolution’ are about 1 in about 5.4 trillion …From a purely mathematical standpoint, the bewildering complexity of even the most basic organic molecules [which are much more complicated than a nine-letter word] completely rules out the possibility of life originating by mere chance.”

Take just one aspect of life---amino acids and protein cells. Dr. Stephen Meyer earned his Ph.D. in the philosophy of science at Cambridge University. In his New York Times bestselling book, Darwin’s Doubt (2013), Meyer points out that “the probability of attaining a correct sequence [of amino acids to build a protein molecule] by random search would roughly equal the probability of a blind spaceman finding a single marked atom by chance among all the atoms in the Milky Way galaxy---on its face clearly not a likely outcome.” (p. 183)

And this is just one aspect of life, the most basic building-block. In Meyer’s book, he cites the work of engineer-turned-molecular-biologist, Dr. Douglas Axe, who has since written the book, Undeniable: How Biology Confirms Our Intuition That Life Is Designed (2016).

In the interview I did with Scott Huse long ago, he noted, “The probability of life originating through mere random processes, as evolutionists contend, really honestly, is about zero…. If you consider probability statistics, it exposes the naiveté and the foolishness, really, of the evolutionary viewpoint.”

Dr. Charles Thaxton was another guest on that classic television special from 1988. He is a scientist who notes that life is so complex, the chances of it arising by mere chance is virtually impossible. Thaxton, now with the Discovery Institute, has a Ph.D. in physical chemistry, and a post-doctorate degree in molecular biology and a Harvard post-doctorate in the history and philosophy of science.

Thaxton notes, “I’d say in my years of study, the amazing thing is the utter complexity of living things….Most scientists would readily grant that however life happened, it did not happen by chance.”

The whole creation points to the Creator. Huse sums up the whole point: “Simply put, a watch has a watchmaker and we have a Creator, the Lord Jesus Christ.”


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To: Kaslin

The author is comparing apples to nuclear reactors.


21 posted on 06/15/2017 1:19:54 PM PDT by Timpanagos1
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To: Sans-Culotte

The individual in your picture is a Hollywood actor, whose business is reciting words written for him by someone else. The actual authors of those words may be any number of other things, but they are NOT scientists.


22 posted on 06/15/2017 1:20:06 PM PDT by NorthMountain (The Democrats ... have lost their grip on reality -DJT)
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To: jonno

If a system were completely random, how long would it take for a complex organism to develop?

Probably not a valid argument or example but I remember the example of the Infinite Monkey Theorem from my college Physics. How long would it take for a monkey to randomly punching the keys on a typewriter to produce the complete works for Shakespeare. Actually, when we computed it, it was Hamlet and it took longer than the existence of the known universe. 10^12 years? I don’t remember the exact number.

The point is that a truly random system will never get started in the first place let alone survive the millions of successive steps to success. Especially when each step may result in disaster and failure.


23 posted on 06/15/2017 1:20:12 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: ichabod1
If there is no evolution, then why do we share the DNA of all the living creatures on the earth?

Because we all share the same Creator.

24 posted on 06/15/2017 1:21:01 PM PDT by pgkdan (The Silent Majority Stands With TRUMP!)
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To: Kaslin

so they’re going with Aliens created life on Earth


25 posted on 06/15/2017 1:21:10 PM PDT by butlerweave
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To: Kaslin

Darwin’s theory was built upon the idea, now proven false, that cellular life was simple. The discovery that even the cell is irreducibly complex put paid to that theory. The discovery of DNA worsened things because mathematics entered the scene and calculated the odds of accidental life.

So there appears to be some sort of evolution going on since life forms change. On the other hand admitting that it appears that there is intelligent design doesn’t prove that the Bible is right either. That would be another leap in logic not supported by facts in evidence.


26 posted on 06/15/2017 1:21:12 PM PDT by Seruzawa (FABOL)
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To: ichabod1

Yes, I agree with regard to the mouse example.

As for the other, I don’t think that would be necessary.

I shouldn’t get much deeper on that topic though.

These are superficial observations, and I’m not qualified to address this issue as well as other more in depth observations.


27 posted on 06/15/2017 1:21:39 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Fourth estate? Ha! Our media has become the KCOTUS, the Kangaroo Court of the United States.)
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To: HLPhat
"..What is TIME?.."

It's a leftist leaning publication that I want no more of. d;^)

28 posted on 06/15/2017 1:22:15 PM PDT by CopperTop (Outside the wire it's just us chickens. Dig?)
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To: ichabod1
If there is no evolution, then why do we share the DNA of all the living creatures on the earth?

Human engineers and craftsmen of all sorts like to re-use successful designs. Extrapolate from that fact as you wish.

29 posted on 06/15/2017 1:22:44 PM PDT by NorthMountain (The Democrats ... have lost their grip on reality -DJT)
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To: mangonc2

Another related fallacy is the idea that evolution is something that “happened by chance”. Since it is a natural process, it is NOT by chance, any more than the growth of a human or of a tree happens by chance. A dropped object always falls earthward; is that “by chance”? Not at all.

There seems to be an erroneous belief that any phenomenon is either brought about by a single intelligent being who controls and directs it, OR it “happens by chance”. This is not true. Think about it.


30 posted on 06/15/2017 1:23:47 PM PDT by mangonc2
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To: Seruzawa
That would be another leap in logic not supported by facts in evidence.

I believe that's called Faith.

31 posted on 06/15/2017 1:24:17 PM PDT by pgkdan (The Silent Majority Stands With TRUMP!)
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To: Morpheus2009

[[The odds of evolution being random are tiny.]]

So tiny that it is impossible- it far exceeds the upper probability limits- pushing it fully into the impossible category mathematically-


32 posted on 06/15/2017 1:25:10 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: Kaslin

Two great books that totally devastate the idea of evolution and the primordial “soup” using scientific evidence and arguments are “Darwin’s Doubt” and “The Signature in the Cell”, both by Stephen Myers. Both real tour de forces.


33 posted on 06/15/2017 1:25:15 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: Morpheus2009

The odds of evolution being random are tiny.

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The probability of us being here most likely is very small, but it’s not zero, and scientific evidence seems to support that. But that doesn’t stop the above article from being a collection of nonsense and credentialism.


34 posted on 06/15/2017 1:29:33 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: ichabod1

I believe that God is the creator of all. When talking to those who believe in evolution I just say....In the beginning God created evolution.


35 posted on 06/15/2017 1:29:43 PM PDT by agondonter
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To: Kaslin

What is the chance of You ever existing?

Suppose when you were conceived there were six billion people on the earth and two of those people became your parents.

Your mom produced two million eggs, your dad produced trillions of sperm cells.

However you exist.

What are the odds of you existing?


36 posted on 06/15/2017 1:30:16 PM PDT by Timpanagos1
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To: NorthMountain
The individual in your picture is a Hollywood actor, whose business is reciting words written for him by someone else. The actual authors of those words may be any number of other things, but they are NOT scientists.

Wow, no shit?

37 posted on 06/15/2017 1:30:19 PM PDT by Sans-Culotte (Time to get the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US!)
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To: dhs12345

[[Actually, when we computed it, it was Hamlet and it took longer than the existence of the known universe. 10^12 years? I don’t remember the exact number.]]

But what is left out of this scenario is that you would have to INTELLIGENTLY DESIGN a supernatural system in order for the experiment to work- You would need an endless supply of ink, ribbon, keys that don’t wear out, mechanical parts that don’t wear out- the monkey would have to somehow ward off fatigue, skin problems, breakdown etc- the second law of thermodynamics would have to be suspended etc etc etc-


38 posted on 06/15/2017 1:30:40 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Sorry but wrong unless you believe in animism or an élan vitale.

Your comment on this and abiogenesis is very common, but the irony is that it is creationism in a different guise.

Chemicals are chemicals, no difference between dead and alive except defining characteristics, the main one being the ability to replicate.


39 posted on 06/15/2017 1:34:20 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

“Whether or not that’s true; it has nothing to do with evolution.”

George disagrees with you.

“The origin of life was necessarily the beginning of organic evolution and it is among the greatest of all evolutionary problems.”
~ George G. Simpson


40 posted on 06/15/2017 1:34:49 PM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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