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Utah hospital to cops: Stay away from our nurses
Washington Post ^ | Sept 05, 2017 | Fred Barbash and Derek Hawkins

Posted on 09/05/2017 9:36:38 PM PDT by Ken H

The University of Utah Hospital, where a nurse was manhandled and arrested by police as she protected the legal rights of a patient, has imposed new restrictions on law enforcement, including barring officers from patient-care areas and from direct contact with nurses.

Margaret Pearce, chief nursing officer for the University of Utah hospital system, said she was “appalled” by the obfficer’s actions and has already implemented changes in hospital protocol to avoid any repetition.

She said police will no longer be permitted in patient-care areas, such as the burn unit where Wubbels was the charge nurse on the day of the incident and from emergency rooms.

In addition, officers will have to deal with “house supervisors” instead of nurses when they have a request.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: leo
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To: lightman

The hospital/university have their own cops (fairly ineffective, per the video), so technically they wouldn’t need the city’s jack booted storm troopers to deal with internal issues.


121 posted on 09/06/2017 5:37:41 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: Az Joe

Get your attendant to get you your meds. You appear to be off schedule.


122 posted on 09/06/2017 5:45:20 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: Az Joe; airplaneguy

I have no idea what your conflict is, but let me state for the record you are both fags.

I kid, but really: you’re both fags.


123 posted on 09/06/2017 5:48:31 AM PDT by T-Bone Texan (Trump's election does not release you from your prepping responsibilites!)
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To: torqemada

Gracias for the great synopsis.

You cured some folks of their ignorance with that.


124 posted on 09/06/2017 5:54:21 AM PDT by T-Bone Texan (Trump's election does not release you from your prepping responsibilites!)
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To: Az Joe

She resisted an illegal arrest. She wasn’t a ANTIFA protester. She was a Nurse who refused to comply with an Illegal order that , if followed, may have resulted in her losing her Nursing ticket and/or massive lawsuit for violating a PT civil rights. I don’t even see how this cop can be defended. He deserves everything that he got.


125 posted on 09/06/2017 5:55:14 AM PDT by Yorlik803 ( Church/Caboose in 2016)
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To: Ken H

I work in an OR that treats a lot of gang shooting victims. We have cops in the OR to guard against some gang punk coming in to finish the job.


126 posted on 09/06/2017 5:55:25 AM PDT by outofsalt ( If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything)
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To: wastoute

> But how did the nurse know the guy wasn’t just some drunk found behind the wheel? <

If you don’t mind me jumping in, that wouldn’t have mattered to the nurse, one way or the other. All that mattered was that the cop could not meet any of the three conditions necessary to draw blood.

By the way, if the patient here was obviously drunk, he would have been under arrest. And that would have met one of those conditions.

The fact that he wasn’t under arrest says a lot. That patient was a victim, period. And the cops were going after a victim here. Indefensible.


127 posted on 09/06/2017 6:04:12 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: NorthMountain

I agree...I was just responding to the “typical female” comment.

I happen to love alpha males. Real ones. Not the fake alphas...betas with ass hole tendencies.


128 posted on 09/06/2017 6:13:25 AM PDT by mom4melody (,)
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To: Ken H
grumpygresh: What needs to happen is the LEOs need to review the law and their policies with respect to obtaining medical evidence and meet with hospital legal counsel to come up with a rational policy that protects all parties.

Me: They had such a policy and apparently it worked. Until Officer Jeff Payne assaulted the nurse, that is.

What good will another policy do if police can’t be trusted to honor it?

Best comment I've seen ,,,, thank you

129 posted on 09/06/2017 7:10:02 AM PDT by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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To: Washi
"I’ll try not to do that in the future, because I thought I made some really good points. Now those points won’t be read."

That's easy - just re-post it w/o whatever was offensive.

130 posted on 09/06/2017 7:55:41 AM PDT by jackibutterfly
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To: Az Joe

It is comical you are defending criminal activity by a STUPID policeman.
That cop is reason for the 2nd amendment and you defend him.
You should be embarrassed.


131 posted on 09/06/2017 7:56:17 AM PDT by glasseye
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To: Ken H

“What good will another policy do if police can’t be trusted to honor it?

Hospital and police should have a written agreement signed by hospital AND police representatives and their respective legal counsels before there can be an improvement in relations.

If a rogue cop violates the policy, he could be the one taken away in cuffs. Anyways, if cop got evidence w/o warrant, it should be thrown out; so this is bad and sloppy police work.


132 posted on 09/06/2017 8:04:55 AM PDT by grumpygresh (When will Soros be brought to justice? Crush the vermin, crush the Left.)
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To: wastoute
Does any body know what the hell actually happened there?

Yes.

Police were involved in a high speed chase.

Person that they were chasing swerved out of his lane in front of a truck.

The suspect was killed, the driver of the truck, a reserve police officer, was badly injured and taken to the hospital.

He was being treated when SLC officers demanded that they be allowed to do a blood draw.

By law and by agreement with the hospital they are allowed to do a blood draw if, they have a warrant, the person is under arrest, the person gives consent.

They had no warrant, the driver was not under arrest and since he was unconscious he was unable to give consent.

When these facts were pointed out to officer Jackboot and his LT by both the nurse and the hospital lawyer officer Jackboot went totally off his nut and tried to arrest the nurse, laying violent hands on her and dragging her out to his patrol car.

At no point did he actually place her under arrest because he knew she was legally in the right.

After holding her for a while he was forced to let her go.

While in the parking lot office Jackboot decided to shoot off his mouth about how he was a part time ambulance driver and how he would "punish the hospital" by bringing them only transients and would take the "good patients" somewhere else.

133 posted on 09/06/2017 8:13:39 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles! (pink bow))
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To: Ken H

The hospital needs to sue the cops for every dollar they can and file a restraining order against the offend cop.

Until the taxpayers feel serious pain they will continue to elect corrupt officials that don’t hold their cops accountable.


134 posted on 09/06/2017 8:20:56 AM PDT by CodeToad (Victorious warriors WIN first, then go to war! Go TRUMP!!!)
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To: txnativegop

“cops (some of them, especially) have a habit of retaliating in a number of ways, none of them pleasant.”

The people have ways of retaliating against temper tantrum cops, none of them pleasant.


135 posted on 09/06/2017 8:21:35 AM PDT by CodeToad (Victorious warriors WIN first, then go to war! Go TRUMP!!!)
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To: grumpygresh
Hospital and police should have a written agreement signed by hospital AND police representatives and their respective legal counsels before there can be an improvement in relations.

They had one. You saw how much good it did when officer Jackboot and his LT decided that they were going to get their way or else.

136 posted on 09/06/2017 8:21:54 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles! (pink bow))
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To: Yorlik803; LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget; mom4melody

Az Hat is banned.


137 posted on 09/06/2017 8:24:49 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The "news" networks and papers are bitter, dangerous enemies of the American people.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

This never came up in the 10 years of residency training I did, but that was decades ago.


138 posted on 09/06/2017 8:32:16 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

PS: Meathead LT lectured the handcuffed nurse for 5 minutes or so, wouldn’t let anyone else talk and claimed that the hospital was getting “in the way of MY LAW!”


139 posted on 09/06/2017 8:34:33 AM PDT by Mr.Unique (The government, by its very nature, cannot give except what it first takes.)
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To: wastoute
Were you in training before or after HIPAA?

Privacy is a big thing now, you can not even give medical information to a legal spouse unless you have a permission slip.

140 posted on 09/06/2017 8:36:29 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles! (pink bow))
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