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I used to think gun control was the answer. My research told me otherwise.
Alaska Dispatch News ^ | 10/3/17 | Leah Libresco

Posted on 10/03/2017 4:05:04 PM PDT by markomalley

Before I started researching gun deaths, gun-control policy used to frustrate me. I wished the National Rifle Association would stop blocking common-sense gun-control reforms such as banning assault weapons, restricting silencers, shrinking magazine sizes and all the other measures that could make guns less deadly.

Then, my colleagues and I at FiveThirtyEight spent three months analyzing all 33,000 lives ended by guns each year in the United States, and I wound up frustrated in a whole new way. We looked at what interventions might have saved those people, and the case for the policies I'd lobbied for crumbled when I examined the evidence. The best ideas left standing were narrowly tailored interventions to protect subtypes of potential victims, not broad attempts to limit the lethality of guns.

I researched the strictly tightened gun laws in Britain and Australia and concluded that they didn't prove much about what America's policy should be. Neither nation experienced drops in mass shootings or other gun related-crime that could be attributed to their buybacks and bans. Mass shootings were too rare in Australia for their absence after the buyback program to be clear evidence of progress. And in both Australia and Britain, the gun restrictions had an ambiguous effect on other gun-related crimes or deaths.

When I looked at the other oft-praised policies, I found out that no gunowner walks into the store to buy an "assault weapon." It's an invented classification that includes any semi-automatic that has two or more features, such as a bayonet mount, a rocket-propelled grenade-launcher mount, a folding stock or a pistol grip. But guns are modular, and any hobbyist can easily add these features at home, just as if they were snapping together Legos.

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This was originally at the Washington Compost (link here). Found this version to avoid their paywall.

Surprisingly good analysis, particularly from a leftist.

1 posted on 10/03/2017 4:05:04 PM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

Gun control is kinda like trying to solve drunk driving by making it harder for sober people to own cars.


2 posted on 10/03/2017 4:08:49 PM PDT by umgud
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To: umgud

Same thing happened to John Lott. Useful idots need to remain uninformed or they aren’t useful anymore.


3 posted on 10/03/2017 4:10:52 PM PDT by thorvaldr
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To: markomalley

Liberty comes at a price, we know that.

We cannot presume to stop every evil and avoid creating the worse evil of tyranny over Liberty; which eventually slides down the slippery slope of one tyranny added to another until nothing exists out of our Liberty but only because it squares with some government edict, and absolutely anything can be verboten by government edict.

It is not the lack of human laws allows in evil. It is the lack of G-d in a human heart.


4 posted on 10/03/2017 4:17:56 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: markomalley

Considering the evidence is just not the done thing these days. I was just talking about this with one of my sons, apropos of an article that said it made sense to “protest” those with whom you disagree (but avoid violence).

Why is “protest” a reasonable response to disagreement? Wouldn’t listening, researching, and disputing - in writing and with evidence - be the thing to do?

People claim to agree on a goal: fewer murders, for example, or better educational outcomes. However, many refuse to consider the evidence about what policies are more conducive to achieving the goal.


5 posted on 10/03/2017 4:18:20 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("What comes after diversity is the grim uniformity of Islam." ~Mark Steyn)
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To: markomalley

A Conservative is a Liberal who hasn’t been shot by any of the 300 million plus guns she thinks are pointed at everybody all the time, or something like that.


6 posted on 10/03/2017 4:31:35 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: markomalley

I don’t care what this ninny thinks. Even if he thinks that gun control IS a solution.

They’re not taking them. Period. I know what happens next and it’s worth dying for.

so i don’t care if people think that I can or cannot have guns. I simply don’t care. My constitution, the one I was born with, doesn’t give me permission it gives me a right.

I have a right to speak my mind, I have a right to pray to whatever I want to pray too and I have a right to have a gun that can not be infringed. So I’m happy that this dork thinks I can have a gun. Thats great.

But I don’t care.


7 posted on 10/03/2017 4:32:53 PM PDT by Celerity
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To: Celerity

RTFAB4UP.

[Pro tip: she agrees with you]

Oh, wait. This is Free Republic. Reading the articles violates some rule or another.


8 posted on 10/03/2017 4:41:37 PM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: umgud

I like that. Good comparison.


9 posted on 10/03/2017 4:49:58 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Vacate the chair! Ryan must go.)
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To: Celerity
I know what happens next and it’s worth dying for.

The more history I learn, the more I know this is true.

10 posted on 10/03/2017 4:57:45 PM PDT by Hardastarboard (Three most annoying words on the internet - "Watch the Video")
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To: Wuli

Very good comment.

This guy had a LOT of resources. Luckily, he, while somewhat cunning, was not smart enough to create a much larger massacre, one that would not have required a stash of firearms in a hotel room.


11 posted on 10/03/2017 4:58:44 PM PDT by Paul R. (I don't want to be energy free, we want to be energy dominant in terms of the world. -D. Trump)
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To: markomalley

What is obscured by leftist data is that “gun death” statistics include suicides and self-defense killings.

Presumably suicides would find another means if a gun was not available.

In the case of self-defense, the shooter would have been the victim if he/she hadn’t been armed.


12 posted on 10/03/2017 5:06:27 PM PDT by generally ( Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: markomalley

I tweeted this a couple hours ago to my congressrat after he tweeted out a video of him pontificating about th eneed for common sense gun control. I also reminded him that the massacre in Paris last year was in a state with 100% gun control.

I also posted that he was complicit in the deaths of thousands of children just today with his vote against the US House 20 week abortion ban.

I figured I would be ignored or he’d call Twitter and whine that the mean old conservative is sending him facts and I need to be suspended. Nothing yet


13 posted on 10/03/2017 5:14:51 PM PDT by cyclotic (Trump tweets are the only news source you can trust.)
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To: markomalley

“RTFAB4UP.”

I did. My statement still stands.

It’s great that people approve. Luckily, I don’t give two ****s if they do or not. It’s not up for debate.


14 posted on 10/03/2017 5:18:00 PM PDT by Celerity
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To: Hardastarboard
They approve of my carry. That's great. But I don't seek their approval. So I don't care.
15 posted on 10/03/2017 5:18:47 PM PDT by Celerity
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To: markomalley

Marked for later


16 posted on 10/03/2017 5:39:01 PM PDT by guitar Josh
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To: nnn0jeh

ping


17 posted on 10/03/2017 5:48:38 PM PDT by kalee
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To: Celerity

Our Constitution confirms, in writing, our God-given rights!

And, the Constitution commits our God-given rights as the supreme laws of our land.


18 posted on 10/03/2017 8:08:34 PM PDT by Taxman (Replace the income tax with the FAIRtax and abolish the IRS!)
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To: markomalley

It is amazing what happens when emotional humans actually read and discover this funny little thing called a ‘fact’.

JoMa


19 posted on 10/03/2017 10:41:39 PM PDT by joma89
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To: thorvaldr

There is power to be found if only you keep the masses ill- or un- informed. This is the demo_rat mantra.

JoMa


20 posted on 10/03/2017 10:43:50 PM PDT by joma89
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