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1 posted on 10/09/2017 7:08:38 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

What a complete idiot.
How do they find buffoons to write this dreck?
And do they come up with editors who aren’t too embarrassed to publish it?


2 posted on 10/09/2017 7:18:56 AM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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Although I like the idea of gun safety courses offered to the public by the military, I don’t like the idea of making them mandatory. If you make a constitutional right contingent on taking a course you are falling in with the liberals, who view gun ownership is something the government can and should control.


3 posted on 10/09/2017 7:19:14 AM PDT by samtheman (As an oil exporter, why would the Russians prefer Trump to Hillary? (Get it or be stupid.))
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To: Kaslin
The Second Amendment is special, not because it protects guns, (and this is where every collectivist/communist gets it wrong) but because its violation signals a government with the intention to oppress its people.

Any questions?

4 posted on 10/09/2017 7:19:32 AM PDT by TTFlyer
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To: Kaslin

Trade a bump stock ban for universal national concealed carry or nation-wide concealed carry reciprocity. I would consider that a big net win.


5 posted on 10/09/2017 7:21:32 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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Bump stocks are a trivial matter but we cannot concede on this or any other point.

On the other hand, if they would be willing to stop blocking the SHARE act and concealed carry reciprocity I would be willing to accept the licensing of bump stocks as destructive devices, assuming we could reach a reasonable agreement on the legal definition of what a "bump stock" is.

Otherwise we should hold our ground until the hysteria passes

6 posted on 10/09/2017 7:22:24 AM PDT by InABunkerUnderSF (Dump Flake)
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If you look at the three methods that could be used:

(1) Constitutional Convention. I don’t think anyone from either party wants this to occur because there could be twenty-odd changes (term-limits, deletion of the Electoral College, removal of functions for the Senate, etc).

(2) Getting two-thirds of the House and Senate to pass? It’d be a end of career job for some GOP folks if they went this direction.

(3) State by state legislatures voting on a similar piece of legislature seems unlikely. You wouldn’t find any southern state agreeing to this.

So it’s simply a lot of talk without much to be accomplished. Now, I will say...if they ever get around to defining a militia within each state, and get the Supreme Court to allow a defined status...then you might see some creative measures to occur then. If you just said that no incarcerated or convicted members could be a member of a militia....it’d likely be waved as legit, and take the first step.


7 posted on 10/09/2017 7:22:31 AM PDT by pepsionice
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The Second Amendment protects the First; remove the Second and the First goes away.


9 posted on 10/09/2017 7:35:23 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~)
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To: Kaslin

The issue is never the issue.

Libtards don’t give a crap about “bump stocks”. Trump ran on changing the Overton Window on the 2nd Amendment. This is about preventing that. Pure and simple.


11 posted on 10/09/2017 7:39:47 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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There are two fronts to fight on, emotion and logic. We already are winning on logic. What will back the Dems off is to win in the area of emotion.

NRA should run ads around:
- women defending their kids or themselves from being attacked
- men defending their family


12 posted on 10/09/2017 7:42:31 AM PDT by taxcontrol (Stupid should hurt)
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The second point and likely most importantly is the reason we are on the verge of losing the battle for the 2nd amendment. The author touches on it but still takes a prevent defense position.

The resolution to ending the 2nd amendment debate in favor of the 2nd amendment is to attack the gun control acts of 1934 and 1968 to end the notion that American's 2nd amendment rights are limited. We must end the NFA and all the nonsense infringements it has forced on the American people. We should not be debating a ban on bump stock because without the NFA they would not exist. Until we wake up and realize the NFA is the source of all our problems we will continue to have this debate and will ultimately lose and be disarmed.

15 posted on 10/09/2017 8:03:49 AM PDT by precisionshootist
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Shoot anyone who comes for your guns, if they say turn then then everyone show up and open fire.

“You won’t need the wnd amebdment until they try to take it away from you” this is a clue


16 posted on 10/09/2017 8:08:14 AM PDT by stockpirate (SETH RICH gave the emails to wikikileaks via murdered ex-UK Amb, murdered he was, cover up it is)
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As it stands, conservatives are doing nothing more than defending an existing arrangement.

Where has this tool been as conceal carry has been vastly expanded over the past couple of decades? And self-defense laws improved? The so-called assault weapons ban allowed to expire without renewal? It's been a Second Amendment juggernaut.

18 posted on 10/09/2017 8:22:31 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Kaslin

For us to win the 2nd Amendment “war”...just buy more guns and not be afraid to use them when the time comes.


20 posted on 10/09/2017 8:46:09 AM PDT by CodeToad (CWII is coming. Arm Up! They Are!)
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I'll give 'em a bump-stock ban. But they've gotta give us National Reciprocity and Suppressors. Anything else is strictly on SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED terrain!
25 posted on 10/09/2017 9:21:55 AM PDT by ExSoldier ("Terrorists: They hate you yesterday, today, and tomorrow. End it, no more tomorrows for them!)
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Pull that Smokewagon....


27 posted on 10/09/2017 2:20:49 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: Kaslin

2A is in zero danger of being repealed, ever. The danger is in liberal judges deciding not to enforce it.


29 posted on 10/10/2017 12:18:06 AM PDT by Impy (The democrat party is the enemy of your family and civilization itself, forget that at your peril.)
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