Posted on 12/12/2017 9:47:41 PM PST by conservative98
GOP Alabama Senate Candidate Roy Moore refused to concede on Tuesday night and insisted more votes could still swing the race and save him from a stunning defeat to an underdog Democrat.
“When the vote is this close, that it’s not over,” he told supporters in Montgomery at his campaign rally shortly after Democrat Doug Jones already had been declared the winner by multiple news organizations and had given a televised victory speech.
With all precincts reporting, Jones had 49.9 percent and Moore 48.4 percent.
Moore quoted from scripture and told supporters to wait for all votes to come in – including provisional ballots and those cast by overseas military members.
“That’s what we’ve got to do, is wait on God and let this process play out,” Moore said. “But the votes are still coming in and we’re looking at that.”
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Obama still had 59 though, and loyal. We have 51 with Collins, Murkowski, Corker, Flake, McCain till he dies, etc. We ought to have a good gain next year but in the meantime...it was already hard to pass stuff with these egomaniac Senators.
Not 12 hours passed before you had Pochontas calling for no vote on the tax cut till her bitch boy is seated. “Little girls” from 1970 suddenly forgotten as the real purpose of saving the individual mandate comes into focus, the ongoing sexual assault of the American taxpayer, given HIV by Obama and in desperate need of AZT.
If I had to guess on Jones, I’d say literal cuck, Black dudes. The Rex Ryan special.
I know you have your own way of making projections but I would quibble with your numbers.
While +4 would give us 55, tying our modern high held 3 times, 1983-84, 1997-2000 (death of Paul Coverall reduced it to 54) and 2005-2006, given the LARGE amount of ripe targets, a net of 4 would be underwhelming. WV, MO, ND, MT, IN, OH are 6 States Trump won comfortably with rat Senators up, you’d like to get all those, for a start and toss in Florida and hopefully PA, maybe the MN special or MI or WS or don’t write off ME or even VA or NJ if Menendez is the rat candidate. Lose only Nevada, or nothing. We won’t get the straight flush and win all the ones we should, but I really hope for more than 4. Given the larger number of GOP states would should have a good Senate edge and that that needs to start manifesting itself, it should never be 51-49. Step one is CANDIDATE RECRUITMENT. So of those races have strong people in, some do not.
As for the House, I expect a net loss certainly, though a small one. We do not have so many House targets, if we have such a good year as to net 8, then I would imagine the Senate gain would be much larger than 4.
Terrible news, prayers.
At least that’s one of the most treatable cancers. But it can mess up man’s PP and that certainly sucks.
“Blue wave.” I hope so. I don’t want a f’ing RED Commie wave.
Spot on, amigo!
I can practically see Jones in a chair at the foot of the bed with that stupid look on his face and n*pple clamps on.
Or playing “the gimp” in a re-enactment from “Pulp Fiction”.
These states, that Trump won, have democrat senators, running for re-election, who barely won in 2012: WI, MT, MO, IN, OH, and PA. I think that Republicans will win five of those six races, but I don’t know which five. A Democrat will win in Nevada.
In the House, Republicans will gain seats in Illinois’ 10th District and Nevada’s 3rd and 4th Districts. I don’t know the other five districts where they’ll gain seats because there are about 400 other districts that I haven’t researched, yet.
If the GOP reclaims NV 3rd and 4th, they will also retain the NV Senate seat (albeit with Danny Tarkanian, not Dean Heller).
I will take it!
You can go ahead and put a name on that as they have their certain nominee, Rep. Jackie Rosen.
As DJ said, taking back both House seats (especially the 4th which is slightly more D than the state) and losing the Senate race are an unlikely combo. The way Nevada has gone lately has been feast or famine. But given that we seem to have a strong candidate for Nevada 4 (Las Vegas City Councilman Stavros Anthony) and not so great options for the Senate seat, it's not out of the question, I guess.
You think we'll take back IL-10?! With Sapan Shah? Not impossible but gosh, what's your thinking on that? If we're winning seats like that it'll be Christmas in November.
I don't know how you can project if you have yet to analyse 400 seats. You need to do the analysis prior to projecting, no? ;p Later on I'll make a list of target seats.
On the subject of Heller vs. Tark in the NV Senate primary, Heller is subpar, and was acting in a most displeasing manner until he was apparently scared straight by the President, and Tark is a proven loser, losing Nevada 3 TO JACKIE ROSEN last year even as Trump carried it, so I remain very much on the fence.
Is there a more useless indicator than the generic ballot?
There are probably several actually but.....
Looking at the current RCP average, it’s terrible. But it’s also all polls with registered voters for some reason, (too early for likely voters?)
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/2018_generic_congressional_vote-6185.html
Registered voters are not worth a bucket of pee
In 2018 R’s outdid the RCP average (of final polls with likely voters) by 1.7 (margin) and in 2014 outdid it by 3.3.
In 2012 we under-performed the poll average by 1.4%, losing the popular vote to the rats but easily keeping the majority just the same.
A main problem is it’s measuring the US House popular vote, which is of limited relevance with all the safe seats and HEAVILY rat seats, many of which will be uncontested or undercontested.
If we trail by a boatload in likely voter polls in late summer 2018, I’ll worry.
In many House special elections so far while they over-performed (but still LOST) races that flew under the radar, they lost the one they went all in to win, and at best barely won the election day voting in the Montana race where our candidate went Rambo on some dude days before the election (losing decisively because of large early voting) and only managed to baaaarely win this Senate election cause our dude was accused of sex stuff AND shot off his mouth with dumb stuff. The Alabama dems may as well have disbanded if they lost that.
Add in a couple “blue’ state elections in NJ and VA and a few rat gains in Mayoral Races (none of the towns voted for Trump, I don’t think) and in an ultla low turnout state legislative specials, those in Oklahoma tinged by GOP scandals and an unpopular Governor, and overall I have yet to anything that makes me panic about a “rat wave”. I don’t think they’ll put enough House seats in play.
Keep in mind my latest round of registered voter changes in about 8 battleground states show AZ with Rs both absolutely and net gains (+29k and +14) over Ds; PA still showing big R net gains (+84k-—down from two months ago when it was 104k, but since 2012 Ds in PA have lost 250k off their rolls); NC Rs +79k; FL Rs +62k; NM Rs +13k; NV I forget but it was significant R gain =/-10k; NH Rs net up; ME Rs up net 1k; IA Rs up again.
In not ONE battleground state Trump carried where we can measure D/R registrations (so this excluded VA, MN, MI, and OH) have Ds made net gains; while in several Trump lost (NM, NH, ME, and NV Rs have sometimes significant net gains.
These are all attributable to Trump, since the R party itself has done nothing. The trick is for candidates to align with him without being, er, nuts.
I agree, if we take both NV-03 and NV-04 in 2018, I don’t think that Democrat jackie Rosen would win the Senate seat. Well, maybe if she has the fortune of running against Danny Tarkanian, who managed to lose to her in 2016 despite having higher name-ID then her and running in a district that is more GOP than the state as a whole and that Trump carried over Hillary. (I used to support Tarkanian, but he has proven to be an incompetent candidate.)
No, I don’t think that Shah will win in IL’s 10th District. I think that Doug Bennett will win that seat.
“I agree, if we take both NV-03 and NV-04 in 2018....”
That will be some tough sledding.
He’s raised the least money of the 3 Republicans running and in his only previous race, badly lost a primary to an incumbent Lake County Board Member. What makes you think he’ll be nominated, let alone beat an incumbent rat in a rat-leaning district?
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