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Trump: GOP tax bill 'essentially' repeals ObamaCare
The Hill ^ | 12/20/2017 | Jordan Fabian

Posted on 12/20/2017 9:36:56 AM PST by GIdget2004

President Trump on Wednesday claimed the Republican tax plan “essentially” repeals former President Obama’s signature health-care law.

“When the individual mandate is being repealed, that means ObamaCare is being repealed,” Trump said during a Cabinet meeting at the White House. “We have essentially repealed ObamaCare and we will come up with something much better.”

The GOP tax overhaul gets rid of the Affordable Care Act’s individual mandate, which requires almost all Americans to purchase health insurance or pay a fine.

Trump said he refrained from playing up that measure because he was worried about how the news media would report it, but added “now that it’s approved, I can say that.”

Despite Trump’s claim, the tax bill does not repeal ObamaCare entirely.

People will still be able to purchase insurance through individual marketplaces, Medicaid expansion is preserved and consumer protections remain in place.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 0carenightmare; obamacare; obamacaremandate; obamalegacy; taxes; trumptaxbill
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Well (since I see a doctor every six or seven years) that must employ a ton of bureaucrats.


21 posted on 12/20/2017 9:53:11 AM PST by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: Lurkinanloomin
It's dead, Jim. Without the mandate, there isn't a $trillion dollar floor available to subsidize insurance companies covering pre-existing conditions.

Therefore, they will lobby Congress to quickly & formally kill off O-care before it begins to hit their bottom lines.

Think of that scene in the Battle of the Bulge where the Nazi tanks run out of gas. That's what ending the mandate does.

22 posted on 12/20/2017 9:53:28 AM PST by semantic
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To: GIdget2004

Trump claims (falsely) that the tax bill repeals Obamacare. /s


23 posted on 12/20/2017 9:53:30 AM PST by ichabod1 (White Male)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Doesn’t Obamacare outlaw free-market health insurance companies from selling insurance? So, if you do not purchase an Obamacare health insurance plan there will be no other insurance available for you to purchase on the market.


24 posted on 12/20/2017 9:53:42 AM PST by robert14
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Add that to his executive order to on offering insurance across state lines...


25 posted on 12/20/2017 9:54:12 AM PST by Blue Turtle
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To: Windflier

“Does the bill actually repeal the individual mandate, or does it merely reduce the penalty for failing to obtain health insurance to $0?”

It sets it to $0. The individual mandate is still in effect, just with no penalty.


26 posted on 12/20/2017 9:54:52 AM PST by GIdget2004
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To: Sacajaweau

Bill (Re)passed!!!! Nary a vote from the Dummies! 12 Pubbies - No! 224-201!


27 posted on 12/20/2017 9:55:26 AM PST by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: grania

Well, maybe some of that overprescribing can be rolled back. And stopping Hezbollah’s heroin pipeline into the country may slow the epidemic as well.


28 posted on 12/20/2017 9:56:04 AM PST by ichabod1 (White Male)
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To: GIdget2004

Just remember that the Obamacare tax is still in effect for all of next year.


29 posted on 12/20/2017 9:56:29 AM PST by Revel
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To: Road Warrior ‘04

:P to the Pubbies who voted against.


30 posted on 12/20/2017 9:58:46 AM PST by madison10 (Merry Christmas!)
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To: DoodleDawg
Then Obamacare is alive and well.

The mandate was the cornerstone. They knew they had to force people to buy, because those people would pay the high price to subsidize those getting their $1600 plan on the exchange for $25. Now that the mandate is gone, at least 15 million will DROP COVERAGE VOLUNTARILY - they won't be paying those high prices any longer, and they won't be supporting those that don't pay.

31 posted on 12/20/2017 10:00:03 AM PST by dware (Americans prefer peaceful slavery over dangerous freedom)
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To: Blue Turtle
Add that to his executive order to on offering insurance across state lines...

How many insurance companies are now selling policies across state lines? Just curious.

32 posted on 12/20/2017 10:01:10 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: gunnyg

THAT’S why they’re so pissed!


33 posted on 12/20/2017 10:01:41 AM PST by gr8eman (Facts and evidence are bourgeois constructs weaponized by patriarchal penis-people)
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To: Democrat_media

Just as good as last year a day after the election.


34 posted on 12/20/2017 10:03:05 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (Trump is the pawn and creation of the Media and Political Establishment)
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To: semantic

Applause! Analogy of the day!


35 posted on 12/20/2017 10:03:38 AM PST by gr8eman (Facts and evidence are bourgeois constructs weaponized by patriarchal penis-people)
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To: madison10

411-0. “On Motion To Suspend The Rules And Pass As Amended”.


36 posted on 12/20/2017 10:03:53 AM PST by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: dware
The mandate was the cornerstone. They knew they had to force people to buy, because those people would pay the high price to subsidize those getting their $1600 plan on the exchange for $25. Now that the mandate is gone, at least 15 million will DROP COVERAGE VOLUNTARILY - they won't be paying those high prices any longer, and they won't be supporting those that don't pay.

Which will mean higher premiums, resulting in higher subsidies and hire offsets to the insurance companies, leading to retention of the Obamcare taxes. So tell me again how it's repealed?

37 posted on 12/20/2017 10:04:51 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

None yet, but removing the negative incentive to go on your own was relied upon by the entire scheme to endure. Without it, the sustaining fuel for the rest is gone. Now (actually with the close of 2018) the other pillars have no foundation and with that going away, so will the others in the real world markets. The legal emasculation will commence immediately in 2018.


38 posted on 12/20/2017 10:07:51 AM PST by mazda77
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To: GIdget2004

No. It repeals one of the more annoying and least liked parts of the measure. Now people can truly go without insurance until they get sick, and then purchase insurance to “pay” for their illness, since they did not change the requirement that all pre-conditions must be covered.

But I would not be surprised if President Trump actually believes this “repeals Obamacare”. He never seemed that upset about any of the ACA except that it forced people to buy insurance.

Next, he’s going to get Long Fence to put up a mile of chain-link and say he “sealed the borders” :)


39 posted on 12/20/2017 10:11:42 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: red-dawg

well yes of course it will. You do understand all insurance (Including Obamacare) enrollment ended last month and it starts rollout in two weeks? It’s too late to save you from the 2017 mandate when you file in 2018. When you file in 2019 for 2018 it should then take effect for you.


40 posted on 12/20/2017 10:13:19 AM PST by snarkytart
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