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George Deukmejian dead at 89, public safety and law-and-order dominated two-term governor's agenda
latimes ^ | MAY 08, 2018 | CLAUDIA LUTHER AND RICHARD C. PADDOCK

Posted on 05/09/2018 1:12:45 PM PDT by MarvinStinson

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To: MarvinStinson

I knew nothing about him.

Was the only Armenian Governor. I did not know that.

But names like his should not draw attention.

I admire all nations that value the truth, honest rule of law and good moral values.

Nothing much can be built with less than that as a starting point.

Our constitution is worthless unless it has that as underpinning.


21 posted on 05/09/2018 5:13:02 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: MarvinStinson; LS; Impy; BillyBoy; GOPsterinMA; NFHale; Galactic Overlord-In-Chief; ...

The last great Governor of California. All progressively worse ever since. RIP.


22 posted on 05/09/2018 5:54:40 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj ("It's Slappin' Time !")
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To: fieldmarshaldj; NFHale; Impy; stephenjohnbanker

He was one macho mofo. RIP.


23 posted on 05/09/2018 6:49:27 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (I'm with Steve McQueen: I live my life for myself and answer to nobody.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Claude Akins.


24 posted on 05/09/2018 7:00:41 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (I'm with Steve McQueen: I live my life for myself and answer to nobody.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; MarvinStinson; LS; Impy; BillyBoy; GOPsterinMA; Galactic Overlord-In-Chief

“...when he signed an “assault weapons” ban in 1989 with Los Angeles Police Chief Daryl Gates ...”

That right there would have turned me completely against him.


25 posted on 05/09/2018 7:01:46 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: MarvinStinson

We could use more Dukes and Wilsons.


26 posted on 05/09/2018 7:02:40 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Build Kate's Wall)
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To: NFHale

Yes.

Gimme a f’n break. Anything that has mass can be used as an “assault weapon”.


27 posted on 05/09/2018 7:04:53 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (I'm with Steve McQueen: I live my life for myself and answer to nobody.)
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To: NFHale

so you would have voted for Bradley or Brown?


28 posted on 05/09/2018 7:11:15 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Build Kate's Wall)
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To: GOPsterinMA
Anything that has mass can be used as an “assault weapon”.

Paleolithic assault weapon.

29 posted on 05/09/2018 7:14:04 PM PDT by eldoradude (Walk a mile in a man's shoes and he'll never catch you.)
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To: morphing libertarian

Nope.

None of the above.

When it comes to my gun rights, you either support the right to keep and bear arms, or you support the enemy.

Tell me what good it does to support a “Republican” over a democrat when both sign on to gun control?


30 posted on 05/09/2018 7:20:16 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: eldoradude

Exactly...


31 posted on 05/09/2018 7:44:34 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (I'm with Steve McQueen: I live my life for myself and answer to nobody.)
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To: morphing libertarian

Pete Wilson presided over the death of the CA GOP.


32 posted on 05/09/2018 9:08:09 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj ("It's Slappin' Time !")
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Cali may never see his like again. :(

RIP

He was rumored to be HW’s choice for VP in ‘88 but he didn’t want to hand Cali over to the the rat LT Governor.


33 posted on 05/09/2018 9:56:29 PM PDT by Impy (I have no virtue to signal.)
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To: CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC
I think you're referencing, "Honey I Shrunk the Kids Candidate, a low budget sequel.
34 posted on 05/09/2018 10:24:23 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs..)
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To: MarvinStinson

California will never again see another Republican Governor.

Never.


35 posted on 05/09/2018 10:35:11 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (End the Mueller Gestapo now.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

If you say so. I thought Pete Wilson was a good governor.

Arnold was a disaster, but then he was not a Republican. He was a celebrity who ran with an R on his back. He was as much Republican as Hillary Clinton or Nancy Pelosi.


36 posted on 05/09/2018 10:37:53 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (End the Mueller Gestapo now.)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free; Impy; LS; BillyBoy; NFHale; GOPsterinMA; Galactic Overlord-In-Chief

I can tell you exactly when it died under Pete: The 1996 General Election. Before that date, the Republican Party was competitive across the board. It was only expert Democrat gerrymandering that kept them from winning majorities in the Congressional delegation and the legislature after the 1960s.

1996 established the following dynamics: #1, the GOP ceased to be able to be competitive to win both the Assembly and Senate. They lost the Assembly that year and have never won it since. #2, they ceased to be tied or competitive with federal Congressional seats. Going into the 1996 elections, the GOP had half, 26 out of 52 House seats. Today, that number has dropped to 14 out of 53. No CA Republican has defeated a federal Democrat incumbent in 24 years, not since 1994.

#3, No Republican has won a downballot statewide office since 1994. #4, Presidentially, the last time a Democrat was below 50% was 1992. #5, Wilson himself ran for President in 1996, happy to abandon the state to Gray Davis (something which Deukmejian refused to do with Leo McCarthy in 1988 when offered the VP slot by GHW Bush).

You can generally judge a Governor by the state of the party that he leaves behind. Now unless there’s an internecine situation going on, coupled with a bad national climate (which was why Reagan was unable to hand off the Governorship in 1974 to another Republican), generally a Governor can be viewed as the “President” of his state. Look at Deukmejian in 1990: He easily passed off the state to another Republican, Wilson. The state was on sound footing.

Fast forward to 1998, the party was dead. Wilson handed it off to Davis, and that was that. The sad irony, the man who buried the CA GOP after Wilson killed it was the execrable Communist Ah-nold, was to the left of Gray Davis. His goal, of course, was to make the CA GOP a mirror image of the Democrats. Of course, there’s no reason to have two ultra-leftist parties, because one does the trick. Of course, he knows that. And now, thanks to that top two candidate bullcrap, Republicans may not even get to compete in a general election. You get the honor of picking a Stalinist or a Maoist.

Who knows, if California had had a Governor like McClintock instead of creepy and treacherous Communist sex maniacs like Ah-nold, perhaps the state would’ve still been competitive. Now it’s a sad, feudal, one-party Marxist totalitarian slave state. Thanks to RINO Pete Wilson for giving it that shove over the cliff.


37 posted on 05/10/2018 2:36:36 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj ("It's Slappin' Time !")
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Thanks for that.


38 posted on 05/10/2018 5:13:05 AM PDT by MarvinStinson
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker

LOL a ban that I did not abide by....sold a (never mind) for over $3000 that I’d paid $800 for only a few years earlier. No papers, no muss/no fuss.

Thanks Gov!


39 posted on 05/10/2018 5:44:44 AM PDT by SirLurkedalot (10/10/51-7/7/16 RIP Dad, I'll be missing you until I cross over to Eternity)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
#3, No Republican has won a downballot statewide office since 1994. #4, Presidentially, the last time a Democrat was below 50% was 1992. #5, Wilson himself ran for President in 1996, happy to abandon the state to Gray Davis (something which Deukmejian refused to do with Leo McCarthy in 1988 when offered the VP slot by GHW Bush).

Actually, Republican Steve Poizner thumped Cruz Bustamante for the Insurance Commissioner's office in 2006. Poizner would give up the office for a run for governor in 2010 but lose to Meg Whitman in the GOP primary. Probably the only exception that's out there, though.
40 posted on 05/10/2018 6:12:36 AM PDT by Galactic Overlord-In-Chief (Domo Arigato, Mr. Rubio. Domo Arigato, Mr. Rubio.)
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