Posted on 05/18/2018 1:25:02 PM PDT by Red Badger
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A Double Murder From 1987 Was Just Solved Thanks To The Genealogy Website Used For The Golden State Killer
Jay Cook and Tanya Van Cuylenborg Snohomish County Sheriff
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Forensic genealogy has cracked a second major case, less than a month after the arrest of Joseph James DeAngelo, alleged to be the Golden State Killer.
At 11 a.m. PDT in Washington state, the Snohomish County Sheriff announced the arrest of a 55-year-old man from the Seattle area for the 1987 double murder of a young Canadian couple, Jay Cook and Tanya Van Cuylenborg. He is William Earl Talbott II, a local truck driver.
On Nov. 18, 1987, Cook, 20, and Van Cuylenborg, 18, drove from Saanich, British Columbia, to the Seattle area in a van owned by Cook’s father. It was supposed to be an overnight trip, and when they didn’t return, they were reported missing.
Then, on Nov. 24, Van Cuylenborg’s body was found in a ditch in rural Skagit County, Washington. She had been raped and shot. Cook’s body was found two days later more than 50 miles away, covered with a blue blanket. He had been strangled and beaten.
On Thursday, BuzzFeed News reported that a company called Parabon NanoLabs had loaded DNA data from about 100 crime scenes into a public genealogy database called GEDmatch — finding matches with people estimated to be a suspect’s third cousins or even closer in about 20 cases.
From that search, a DNA sample from Van Cuylenborg’s murder scene gave especially promising leads. “The significant matches were at about the second cousin level,” CeCe Moore, the genealogist working with Parabon, told reporters at a press conference to announce Talbott’s arrest.
This meant that Moore had to draw family trees back to the great-grandparents of the people whose DNA profiles matched with the crime scene sample. Then, looking at descendants of these people, she found that the family trees converged on a couple who had only one son.
That was Talbott. His DNA has since been shown to match the crime scene sample.
Family tree of suspect in genetic genealogy search. CeCe Moore/Parabon NanoLabs
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“Detective work has sure come a long way in 30 years,” said Laura Baanstra, Cook’s sister.
Investigators said that they still don’t know the motive, or how Talbott met the couple. They appealed for help from anyone who knew Talbott at the time, or may have seen him in November 1987 in the stolen van or with Van Cuylenborg’s camera. “The investigation still has more work to be done,” Snohomish County Sheriff Ty Trenary told reporters.
Family members of the victims said they were relieved that the alleged killer is finally in custody.
“It’s a sense of some justice that’s starting to happen here,” said John Van Cuylenborg, Tanya’s elder brother.
>> a whole lot less people will be contributing a vial of spit to Ancestry, com, etc <<
If they are criminals, or if they know that family members are criminals, then for sure.
But for the rest of us, I think we’ll keep on contributing.
I don’t think I want full knowledge of everyone I am related to ;)
fake DNA and fake fingerprints
are common in US courtrooms
>> If you don’t like it.....don’t leave your DNA at a crime scene <<
Yep. And even better, don’t commit the crime in the first place.
Nothing I can do about except choose not to participate. Not that that will help a great deal.
Everybody wants to know everything about everyone else now-a-days.
No matter where you go, they want your personal information.
AGHHH!!
Soon, DNA samples will be mandatorily taken at birth and from schools and universities, so everyone will be in the database................
That has been happening since 1983/35 years, re taking DNA from newborns without notifying the parents.
California Newborn DNA Database Shocks Parents « CBS Sacramento
sacramento.cbslocal.com/2018/05/.../california-newborn-dna-database-shocks-parents/
5 days ago - California has been collecting newborn blood samples since 1983. ... spent decades collecting the DNA of infants without parents realizing it.
Imagine that you are lab tech, barely making it financially, and someone offers you a $100 for every blood sample you take if they get a sample with the patients ID’s.
And yet here we are. Where you can not get your electricity turned on without one. Wonder how long before they require a DNA sample for that.
>> I can forsee a clever criminal obtaining another’s DNA and planting it at the scene <<
Sure, but that’s not a new possibility. Not by a long shot.
Specifically, criminals could have been doing that “planting” all along, at least for the last ca. 30 years that DNA has been used forensically.
Therefore, the fact that this outcome has not been reported after so many years tells me that there’s really not much to worry about.
And if the average generation starts the next one at age 20-25, then that's the progeny of just 2 people, where everyone has only 2 kids, after just 400-500 years. Each person in Columbus's day has over 1 million in their tree today.
No you havent
>> hasn’t the DNA from those sites been volunteered? <<
For sure, except for the few hundred sets of DNA values from unknown criminals that recently have been put into the GEDMATCH database.
There’s so many incredibly gullible people. After 8 years of “get whitey “ and media lies (that continue to this day), it amazes me that ANYONE would willingly put their blind trust in a COMPANY that YOU PAY to give your DNA to. Wait.....what???
People honestly think this service is benevolent? Wake up Americans! It WILL be used by insurance companies to rate their risk of insuring you if it shows your are predisposed to XYZ illness. It WILL be used to deny you healthcare, insurance and probably your life. This is NOT a good thing...at all.
Remember, your social security number was never going to be an identifier either.
I know, it sounds Orwellian, but the benefits out weigh the negatives...........
Yes god forbid someone decides that the xxxx population needs to be dealt with. It will make the Nazi work with Dehomag pale in comparison.
I remember in elementary school in the ‘80s, they took our fingerprints. I don’t know why or if they were stored.
[under oblowme. Can’t trust ANYTHING about that lying traitorous bunghole]
Correct
Or maybe the criminal is successful....
Hmmmmmmmmm....
Wow..thank you for the link and that information!!
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