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A Double Murder From 1987 Was Just Solved Thanks To The Genealogy Website Used For...
www.buzzfeed.com ^ | Posted on May 18, 2018, at 2:29 p.m. | Peter Aldhous

Posted on 05/18/2018 1:25:02 PM PDT by Red Badger

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A Double Murder From 1987 Was Just Solved Thanks To The Genealogy Website Used For The Golden State Killer

Jay Cook and Tanya Van Cuylenborg Snohomish County Sheriff

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Forensic genealogy has cracked a second major case, less than a month after the arrest of Joseph James DeAngelo, alleged to be the Golden State Killer.

At 11 a.m. PDT in Washington state, the Snohomish County Sheriff announced the arrest of a 55-year-old man from the Seattle area for the 1987 double murder of a young Canadian couple, Jay Cook and Tanya Van Cuylenborg. He is William Earl Talbott II, a local truck driver.

On Nov. 18, 1987, Cook, 20, and Van Cuylenborg, 18, drove from Saanich, British Columbia, to the Seattle area in a van owned by Cook’s father. It was supposed to be an overnight trip, and when they didn’t return, they were reported missing.

Then, on Nov. 24, Van Cuylenborg’s body was found in a ditch in rural Skagit County, Washington. She had been raped and shot. Cook’s body was found two days later more than 50 miles away, covered with a blue blanket. He had been strangled and beaten.

On Thursday, BuzzFeed News reported that a company called Parabon NanoLabs had loaded DNA data from about 100 crime scenes into a public genealogy database called GEDmatch — finding matches with people estimated to be a suspect’s third cousins or even closer in about 20 cases.

From that search, a DNA sample from Van Cuylenborg’s murder scene gave especially promising leads. “The significant matches were at about the second cousin level,” CeCe Moore, the genealogist working with Parabon, told reporters at a press conference to announce Talbott’s arrest.

This meant that Moore had to draw family trees back to the great-grandparents of the people whose DNA profiles matched with the crime scene sample. Then, looking at descendants of these people, she found that the family trees converged on a couple who had only one son.

That was Talbott. His DNA has since been shown to match the crime scene sample.

Family tree of suspect in genetic genealogy search. CeCe Moore/Parabon NanoLabs

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“Detective work has sure come a long way in 30 years,” said Laura Baanstra, Cook’s sister.

Investigators said that they still don’t know the motive, or how Talbott met the couple. They appealed for help from anyone who knew Talbott at the time, or may have seen him in November 1987 in the stolen van or with Van Cuylenborg’s camera. “The investigation still has more work to be done,” Snohomish County Sheriff Ty Trenary told reporters.

Family members of the victims said they were relieved that the alleged killer is finally in custody.

“It’s a sense of some justice that’s starting to happen here,” said John Van Cuylenborg, Tanya’s elder brother.


TOPICS: Canada; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: goldenstatekiller
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To: ColdOne

Glad to share


61 posted on 05/18/2018 2:39:34 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Hot Tabasco

I think that it will happen sooner than we realize..................


62 posted on 05/18/2018 2:39:40 PM PDT by Red Badger (Remember all the great work Obama did for the black community?.............. Me neither.)
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To: Moonman62

Yes


63 posted on 05/18/2018 2:39:57 PM PDT by ColdOne ((I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11~ Best Election Ever!)
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To: Fido969

There’s already significant evidence we vote our personalities.
The higher your level of trait openness, the more likely you are to be liberal.
Disgust sensitivity is linked to authoritarianism, both on the left and on the right. SJWs are higher on disgust than classic liberals, who are hard to disgust. Conservative religious people tend to be higher on disgust, as well.

Jonathan Haidt - the Moral Roots of Liberals and Conservatives
https://www.ted.com/talks/jonathan_haidt_on_the_moral_mind

The strange politics of disgust
https://www.ted.com/talks/david_pizarro_the_strange_politics_of_disgust?language=en


64 posted on 05/18/2018 2:45:14 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: Red Badger

I won’t be sending my DNA to any such site now that I’ve seen these stories.I was accused of eating paste when I was 4 and the court continued the case without a finding.


65 posted on 05/18/2018 2:48:10 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (You Say "White Privilege"...I Say "Protestant Work Ethic")
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To: RedMonqey
I can forsee a clever criminal obtaining another’s DNA and planting it at the scene to throw off or even frame an other individual.

I CAN'T, dna means nothing if you can't prove an individual was at the scene of the crime...........

Put my DNA at the scene of any crime and I can guarantee you that I have an alibi as to where I was when the crime was committed.........

With today's technology, it would have already been tried..............

66 posted on 05/18/2018 2:48:35 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Mother nature is a serial killer......)
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To: ColdOne

Yep. Said the same.


67 posted on 05/18/2018 2:51:38 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper
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To: Red Badger

I’m of the opinion that if one of my relatives raped and murdered someone, I’m fine with them being caught!


68 posted on 05/18/2018 2:54:12 PM PDT by Onelifetogive
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To: Rastus
I don’t know why or if they were stored.

Taking the prints of grade school kids almost certainly had something to do with kidnapping,etc.I think it would be wise to assume that they're stored.So expect a knock on the door about that library book you failed to return!

69 posted on 05/18/2018 2:54:25 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (You Say "White Privilege"...I Say "Protestant Work Ethic")
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To: Red Badger
I think that it will happen sooner than we realize

I'm sure it will but I'm not going to lose sleep over it.

There are too many advantages of such data collection to treat it as a government conspiracy to catalogue Americans.

70 posted on 05/18/2018 2:55:25 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Mother nature is a serial killer......)
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To: Red Badger

Maybe they will be able to find JonBenet’s killer. There was a pubic hair found at the scene.


71 posted on 05/18/2018 3:01:46 PM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: Hot Tabasco
I know, it sounds Orwellian, but the benefits out weigh the negatives...........

I get my health care at one of the large Boston hospitals affiliated with Harvard Medical School.Recently I got an invitation to participate in a major research study being conducted by the Medical School which involved detailed study of the human genome.Being a big believer in medical research I gave them a couple of tubes of my blood.

I'm waiting for them to send me a letter saying that 'm the long lost son of Henry Ford.

72 posted on 05/18/2018 3:02:50 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (You Say "White Privilege"...I Say "Protestant Work Ethic")
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To: Hot Tabasco

I bet there are a few people in jail that were set up via DNA planting and other fake evidence. Not many, but a few. Same goes with computer based crime. Very easy for a talented hacker to create “evidence.” Put some images on a PC and create a digital trail by controlling the PC. Call in a tip. BAM. There are people you shouldn’t piss off. I knew someone like that.


73 posted on 05/18/2018 3:05:49 PM PDT by StolarStorm
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To: Gay State Conservative

I really did have an A Christmas Carol audio tape out for far too long!


74 posted on 05/18/2018 3:20:20 PM PDT by Rastus
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To: Gay State Conservative

Interesting old article. Not behind a paywall on my phone:

https://www.nytimes.com/1983/02/22/us/fingerprinting-of-children-spreading.html


75 posted on 05/18/2018 3:23:21 PM PDT by Rastus
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To: goldstategop

“You can follow your family tree all the way back in time. As long as the paperwork exists for your 10xxxx removed great-great-great-great grandfather or grandmother.”
Trusting in fidelity a lot here, aren’t you?
What about the mailman, or the milkman who may have had a go with your great grandmother?
I’ve never trusted those genealogy family tree things much, people by nature are not always loyal to a spouse. And don’t forget the sailors, any port in a storm!!


76 posted on 05/18/2018 3:23:52 PM PDT by 9422WMR
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To: StolarStorm
I bet there are a few people in jail that were set up via DNA planting and other fake evidence. Not many, but a few.

"A Few" out of how many millions who have come and gone in our current prison system? I'll accept your bet...........

77 posted on 05/18/2018 3:27:15 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Mother nature is a serial killer......)
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To: mjp

“they” already know who killed her, I believe. Somebody is being protected for whatever reason.


78 posted on 05/18/2018 3:33:49 PM PDT by Maskot (Put every dem/lib in prison...like yesterday.)
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To: ColdOne

When my son was both in NJ 16 years ago they were taking taking cord blood samples from newborns. No opt out.


79 posted on 05/18/2018 3:35:55 PM PDT by nurees (Oh...there is a NEW Mexico (Homer Simpson))
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To: 9422WMR

This^

Plus, I have a feeling every result will come back as having just a little bit of African in ya.


80 posted on 05/18/2018 3:37:08 PM PDT by Maskot (Put every dem/lib in prison...like yesterday.)
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