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A Double Murder From 1987 Was Just Solved Thanks To The Genealogy Website Used For...
www.buzzfeed.com ^ | Posted on May 18, 2018, at 2:29 p.m. | Peter Aldhous

Posted on 05/18/2018 1:25:02 PM PDT by Red Badger

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To: RedMonqey

Well, its not conservatives beating people up wearing Hillary hats, is it?


81 posted on 05/18/2018 3:37:10 PM PDT by Fido969 (In!)
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To: Red Badger

Just think how easy it would be for our globalist overlords to find organ donors to help them live forever if only they had us all in their DNA registry.


82 posted on 05/18/2018 3:41:20 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (<img src="http://i.imgur.com/WukZwJP.gif" width=800>https://i.imgur.com/zXSEP5Z.gif)
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To: Maskot

>> It WILL be used by insurance companies to rate their risk of insuring you if it shows your are predisposed to XYZ illness <<

Has long been against federal law.

(You can look it up.)


83 posted on 05/18/2018 3:47:21 PM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: marktwain

Bingo! That’s the real problem here.

I don’t think anyone seriously cares if criminals are brought to justice through DNA or just good detective work. But there have been cases where DNA was contaminated and used for wrongful convictions. Very hard to dispute DNA “evidence”


84 posted on 05/18/2018 3:47:21 PM PDT by KingofZion
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To: mjp

>> There was a pubic hair found at the scene <<

No DNA in a hair sample, unless the root is attached.


85 posted on 05/18/2018 3:50:38 PM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: Hawthorn

Not done... THAT WE KNOW ABOUT!


86 posted on 05/18/2018 3:50:38 PM PDT by Fido969 (In!)
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To: StolarStorm

>> I bet there are a few people in jail that were set up via DNA planting and other fake evidence <<

“Other” fake evidence? For sure.

But via planted DNA? Very unlikely, due to the way our criminal laws deal with the “chain of custody” in such matters.

Anyway, let’s not forget that in the two recent “genealogy” cases, DNA from the crime scenes was used initially just to identify the likely great-great-(great)-grandparents of the perps.

Then from among the thousands (literally!) of people descended from those GG(G)-grandparents, conventional old-fashioned detective work took over.

In other words, there was no additional DNA analysis until they actually were able to narrow the possible suspects down to one or two, at which points “probable cause” warrants could be issued.


87 posted on 05/18/2018 4:03:00 PM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: 9422WMR

>> I’ve never trusted those genealogy family tree things much <<

Yes, and that’s one of the main reasons why DNA has generated a revolution in genealogical research. It definitely can overturn a lot of those old myths. I know from personal experience!


88 posted on 05/18/2018 4:06:07 PM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: Maskot

>> I have a feeling every result will come back as having just a little bit of African in ya <<

Nope. I hate to disappoint you, but it just doesn’t happen very often. I know because I have followed DNA genealogy very closely for 15 years and have reviewed hundreds of result profiles.


89 posted on 05/18/2018 4:08:47 PM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: Fido969

>> Not done... THAT WE KNOW ABOUT <<

Of course.

Any rational person can appreciate that — logically speaking — you can never “prove a negative” for certain classes of phenomena.

But for us practical folks, life goes on.

And when the USA goes for some 30 years without seeing a significant number of cases where planted DNA has put innocent people in prison, we are justified in concluding that the problem is basically non-existant.


90 posted on 05/18/2018 4:18:47 PM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: Grampa Dave

There are so-called “non-paternity events” when a married woman has a child by her lover and her husband is unaware of the affair and assumes the child is his. California’s database could permit husbands to find out if they are the biological father—but I doubt that information would be made available (the feminists would object).


91 posted on 05/18/2018 4:29:19 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Red Badger
That’s just 20 generations..

Actual numbers over 20 generations are going to be smaller because of cross breeding and inbreeding.

92 posted on 05/18/2018 4:53:41 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: marktwain

Or dirty cops.

Or black ops.


93 posted on 05/18/2018 5:18:40 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

“Where you can not get your electricity turned on without one. “

I have never heard of that-sounds illegal.

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94 posted on 05/18/2018 5:26:38 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Red Badger
It is happening now and has been secretly for years. From an article titled California newborn dna database shocks parents "California has been collecting newborn blood samples since 1983."
95 posted on 05/18/2018 6:03:17 PM PDT by onceone (0311, K Co., 3/5 1st Mar Div, RVN '68)
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To: Mears
The official reason is so you can't just move to a new address and skip out on your electric bill.
96 posted on 05/18/2018 8:32:07 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Bunnies, bunnies, it must be bunnies!! Or maybe midgets....)
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To: knarf

LOL!


97 posted on 05/18/2018 8:34:48 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Do they asked for proof of the SS# or just take your word for it?

I am astonished that any legitimate utility can get away with this.

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98 posted on 05/18/2018 8:59:01 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Mears
I think they run the number to see if it matches your name. And public utilities are getting away with stuff that should not be legal.

For example, your house was built before the city ran the water and sewer lines. Your house might have even been outside the city limits at that time. You have a septic system and a well, since both still work properly you pass on having your house hooked up. Seems logical. But in certain places they will force you to pay to have your house hooked up and then charge you a monthly fee even if you never use the system.

I know a town that every time you rent a house and put the water system in your name you are out slightly over $500 before you ever use a drop.

99 posted on 05/18/2018 9:13:49 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Bunnies, bunnies, it must be bunnies!! Or maybe midgets....)
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To: marktwain

Throw in the ability to generate videos that cannot be differentiated from the real thing and it’s going to impossible to use this stuff as evidence.


100 posted on 05/18/2018 9:19:09 PM PDT by Pelham (California, a subsidiary of Mexico, Inc.)
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