Posted on 05/18/2018 1:25:02 PM PDT by Red Badger
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A Double Murder From 1987 Was Just Solved Thanks To The Genealogy Website Used For The Golden State Killer
Jay Cook and Tanya Van Cuylenborg Snohomish County Sheriff
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Forensic genealogy has cracked a second major case, less than a month after the arrest of Joseph James DeAngelo, alleged to be the Golden State Killer.
At 11 a.m. PDT in Washington state, the Snohomish County Sheriff announced the arrest of a 55-year-old man from the Seattle area for the 1987 double murder of a young Canadian couple, Jay Cook and Tanya Van Cuylenborg. He is William Earl Talbott II, a local truck driver.
On Nov. 18, 1987, Cook, 20, and Van Cuylenborg, 18, drove from Saanich, British Columbia, to the Seattle area in a van owned by Cook’s father. It was supposed to be an overnight trip, and when they didn’t return, they were reported missing.
Then, on Nov. 24, Van Cuylenborg’s body was found in a ditch in rural Skagit County, Washington. She had been raped and shot. Cook’s body was found two days later more than 50 miles away, covered with a blue blanket. He had been strangled and beaten.
On Thursday, BuzzFeed News reported that a company called Parabon NanoLabs had loaded DNA data from about 100 crime scenes into a public genealogy database called GEDmatch — finding matches with people estimated to be a suspect’s third cousins or even closer in about 20 cases.
From that search, a DNA sample from Van Cuylenborg’s murder scene gave especially promising leads. “The significant matches were at about the second cousin level,” CeCe Moore, the genealogist working with Parabon, told reporters at a press conference to announce Talbott’s arrest.
This meant that Moore had to draw family trees back to the great-grandparents of the people whose DNA profiles matched with the crime scene sample. Then, looking at descendants of these people, she found that the family trees converged on a couple who had only one son.
That was Talbott. His DNA has since been shown to match the crime scene sample.
Family tree of suspect in genetic genealogy search. CeCe Moore/Parabon NanoLabs
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“Detective work has sure come a long way in 30 years,” said Laura Baanstra, Cook’s sister.
Investigators said that they still don’t know the motive, or how Talbott met the couple. They appealed for help from anyone who knew Talbott at the time, or may have seen him in November 1987 in the stolen van or with Van Cuylenborg’s camera. “The investigation still has more work to be done,” Snohomish County Sheriff Ty Trenary told reporters.
Family members of the victims said they were relieved that the alleged killer is finally in custody.
“It’s a sense of some justice that’s starting to happen here,” said John Van Cuylenborg, Tanya’s elder brother.
Well, its not conservatives beating people up wearing Hillary hats, is it?
Just think how easy it would be for our globalist overlords to find organ donors to help them live forever if only they had us all in their DNA registry.
>> It WILL be used by insurance companies to rate their risk of insuring you if it shows your are predisposed to XYZ illness <<
Has long been against federal law.
(You can look it up.)
Bingo! That’s the real problem here.
I don’t think anyone seriously cares if criminals are brought to justice through DNA or just good detective work. But there have been cases where DNA was contaminated and used for wrongful convictions. Very hard to dispute DNA “evidence”
>> There was a pubic hair found at the scene <<
No DNA in a hair sample, unless the root is attached.
Not done... THAT WE KNOW ABOUT!
>> I bet there are a few people in jail that were set up via DNA planting and other fake evidence <<
“Other” fake evidence? For sure.
But via planted DNA? Very unlikely, due to the way our criminal laws deal with the “chain of custody” in such matters.
Anyway, let’s not forget that in the two recent “genealogy” cases, DNA from the crime scenes was used initially just to identify the likely great-great-(great)-grandparents of the perps.
Then from among the thousands (literally!) of people descended from those GG(G)-grandparents, conventional old-fashioned detective work took over.
In other words, there was no additional DNA analysis until they actually were able to narrow the possible suspects down to one or two, at which points “probable cause” warrants could be issued.
>> I’ve never trusted those genealogy family tree things much <<
Yes, and that’s one of the main reasons why DNA has generated a revolution in genealogical research. It definitely can overturn a lot of those old myths. I know from personal experience!
>> I have a feeling every result will come back as having just a little bit of African in ya <<
Nope. I hate to disappoint you, but it just doesn’t happen very often. I know because I have followed DNA genealogy very closely for 15 years and have reviewed hundreds of result profiles.
>> Not done... THAT WE KNOW ABOUT <<
Of course.
Any rational person can appreciate that — logically speaking — you can never “prove a negative” for certain classes of phenomena.
But for us practical folks, life goes on.
And when the USA goes for some 30 years without seeing a significant number of cases where planted DNA has put innocent people in prison, we are justified in concluding that the problem is basically non-existant.
There are so-called “non-paternity events” when a married woman has a child by her lover and her husband is unaware of the affair and assumes the child is his. California’s database could permit husbands to find out if they are the biological father—but I doubt that information would be made available (the feminists would object).
Actual numbers over 20 generations are going to be smaller because of cross breeding and inbreeding.
Or dirty cops.
Or black ops.
“Where you can not get your electricity turned on without one. “
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I have never heard of that-sounds illegal.
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LOL!
Do they asked for proof of the SS# or just take your word for it?
I am astonished that any legitimate utility can get away with this.
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For example, your house was built before the city ran the water and sewer lines. Your house might have even been outside the city limits at that time. You have a septic system and a well, since both still work properly you pass on having your house hooked up. Seems logical. But in certain places they will force you to pay to have your house hooked up and then charge you a monthly fee even if you never use the system.
I know a town that every time you rent a house and put the water system in your name you are out slightly over $500 before you ever use a drop.
Throw in the ability to generate videos that cannot be differentiated from the real thing and it’s going to impossible to use this stuff as evidence.
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