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'Mindless growth': Robust scientific case for degrowth is stronger every day
Irish Times ^ | 9/09/19 | Jason Hickel

Posted on 09/21/2019 2:13:35 AM PDT by Libloather

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To: Libloather

“improving people’s lives by distributing income and resources more fairly”

Yeah, that usually results in some pretty heavy duty “degrowth”.


41 posted on 09/21/2019 5:39:49 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn (Chuck Schumer--giving pond scum everywhere a bad name.)
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To: Libloather

And yet none of these folks will say that one obvious way to implement degrowth is to stop immigration from 3rd World to 1st world countries. That is the best path to achieve their goals and yet no one will propose it.


42 posted on 09/21/2019 5:43:51 AM PDT by BRL
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To: Libloather

btt


43 posted on 09/21/2019 5:55:39 AM PDT by KSCITYBOY (The media is corrupt)
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To: Retgearjammer
"...scientific communism??"

Marxism style communism has always claimed to be scientific, yet actual social experiments (Russia/USSR, China, Cambodia, Venezuela, Cuba, N. Korea and on and on) prove that the reality bears no resemblance at all to the Marxist communist hypothesis.

Yet when this is pointed out, the advocates simply deny the reality.

44 posted on 09/21/2019 5:56:20 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: Libloather

I say every tree hugger, every meat hater, every wacko who begs forgiveness from plants, every pronoun user, every dickchopper, every headchopper, go right ahead with the degrowth. Start by sterilizing yourself so you don’t spread your insane genes. Then reduce your intake of protein until you get your nourishment like a plant does. (Stand out in the sun with your feet in the ground.)


45 posted on 09/21/2019 6:02:47 AM PDT by I want the USA back (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. Orwell.)
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To: Libloather

Degrowth is Africanization, Mugabe style


46 posted on 09/21/2019 6:07:02 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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Degrowth is a planned reduction of total energy and material use to bring the economy in line with planetary boundaries, while improving people’s lives by distributing income and resources more fairly. …
“When the war is over, in the world’s social revolution that will be followed by a more equitable distribution of the earth’s riches, due account must be kept of the sacrifices and of the discipline maintained by the Italian workers.”

— Benito Mussolini
The Irish Slimes unashamedly publishes fascist propaganda.
47 posted on 09/21/2019 6:20:27 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Libloather

Sounds like another commie word maze designed to do nothing but attract liberal supporters.


48 posted on 09/21/2019 6:22:43 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Chivalry is not dead. It is a warriors code and only practiced by warriors.)
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To: Wonder Warthog; Retgearjammer
Atheism is a natural and inseparable part of communism, of the theory and practice of scientific socialism.

— Lenin, “Religion”, Introduction
The materialistic argument always attempted to use science to support it (implying that divine revelation was nonsensical and unscientific), but always falls apart when the science invariably does the opposite.
49 posted on 09/21/2019 6:24:47 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: bert
White people in the USA, Canada and Europe have been doing "degrowth" for a few generations.

By reproducing at less than 2.4 kids per couple, our populations have been shrinking.

The Chinese did it by law.

Muslims haven't been doing this.

Africans haven't been doing this.

Latinos in South and Central America haven't.

Most third world countries haven't

Socialism, communism, wars and pestilence eventually cause a LOT of "degrowth". There is no need to intentionally do it.

50 posted on 09/21/2019 6:28:58 AM PDT by Mogger
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To: jeffc

I think the Irish send too much time in their taverns.


51 posted on 09/21/2019 6:40:01 AM PDT by old curmudgeon (There is no situation so terrible, so disgraceful, that the federal government can not make worse)
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To: Libloather
while improving people’s lives by distributing income and resources more fairly.

...and that's where I stopped reading. Will the Leftists ever run out of ways to take what they haven't earned?

52 posted on 09/21/2019 6:44:13 AM PDT by Quality_Not_Quantity (A law means nothing if it isnÂ’t followed.)
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To: Libloather

“...improving people’s lives by distributing income and resources more fairly.”

And there it is.


53 posted on 09/21/2019 7:05:14 AM PDT by D_Idaho ("For we wrestle not against flesh and blood...")
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To: Libloather

I’m all for degrowth especially when it demands nutsy enviro climate change liberal vegans stop exhaling CO2.


54 posted on 09/21/2019 7:21:54 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Libloather

Ah, the No-Growth movement of the 70s returns

Only applies to Whitey

Everyone else gets to pollute they azzes off


55 posted on 09/21/2019 7:42:46 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

So instead of going to work, the Irish would prefer to sit in their shebeens and swill their liquor? Surprising, isn’t it.


56 posted on 09/21/2019 8:51:28 AM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: Libloather

This is an excellent resource. It has 50 years of the most dire climate predictions, starting with the “ICE AGE” in the 70s. Lots of visuals and easy to read. I have been having a lot of success posting this whenever I see a post touting climate destruction on social media.

https://cei.org/blog/wrong-again-50-years-failed-eco-pocalyptic-predictions

Thank to, http://freerepublic.com/~truebelieverforever/


57 posted on 09/21/2019 8:54:08 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (The line that separates satire and Democrats and Stupidity has vanished. (thanks to jonascord)!)
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To: Libloather; Ancient Man; ronnie raygun; Mount Athos; FreedomPoster; Governor Dinwiddie; kabar; ...

LIST OF DOOMSDAY PREDICTIONS THE CLIMATE ALARMIST GOT WRONG:

1967: Dire Famine Forecast By 1975
1969: Everyone Will Disappear In a Cloud Of Blue Steam By 1989 (1969)
1970: Ice Age By 2000
1970: America Subject to Water Rationing By 1974 and Food Rationing By 1980
1971: New Ice Age Coming By 2020 or 2030
1972: New Ice Age By 2070
1974: Space Satellites Show New Ice Age Coming Fast
1974: Another Ice Age?
1974: Ozone Depletion a ‘Great Peril to Life
1976: Scientific Consensus Planet Cooling, Famines imminent
1980: Acid Rain Kills Life In Lakes
1978: No End in Sight to 30-Year Cooling Trend
1988: Regional Droughts (that never happened) in 1990s
1988: Temperatures in DC Will Hit Record Highs
1988: Maldive Islands will Be Underwater by 2018 (they’re not)
1989: Rising Sea Levels will Obliterate Nations if Nothing Done by 2000
1989: New York City’s West Side Highway Underwater by 2019 (it’s not)
2000: Children Won’t Know what Snow Is
2002: Famine In 10 Years If We Don’t Give Up Eating Fish, Meat, and Dairy
2004: Britain will Be Siberia by 2024
2008: Arctic will Be Ice Free by 2018
2008: Climate Genius Al Gore Predicts Ice-Free Arctic by 2013
2009: Climate Genius Prince Charles Says we Have 96 Months to Save World
2009: UK Prime Minister Says 50 Days to ‘Save The Planet From Catastrophe’
2009: Climate Genius Al Gore Moves 2013 Prediction of Ice-Free Arctic to 2014
2013: Arctic Ice-Free by 2015
2014: Only 500 Days Before ‘Climate Chaos’
1968: Overpopulation Will Spread Worldwide
1970: World Will Use Up All its Natural Resources
1966: Oil Gone in Ten Years
1972: Oil Depleted in 20 Years
1977: Department of Energy Says Oil will Peak in 90s
1980: Peak Oil In 2000
1996: Peak Oil in 2020
2002: Peak Oil in 2010
2006: Super Hurricanes!
2005 : Manhattan Underwater by 2015
1970: Urban Citizens Will Require Gas Masks by 1985
1970: Nitrogen buildup Will Make All Land Unusable
1970: Decaying Pollution Will Kill all the Fish
1970s: Killer Bees!

Sorry, Experts… Sorry, Scientific Consensus… Only a fool comes running for the 42nd cry of wolf.

List ‘experts’ got right:

ZERO

https://www.breitbart.com/environment/2019/09/20/nolte-climate-experts-are-0-41-with-their-doomsday-predictions/

https://cei.org/blog/wrong-again-50-years-failed-eco-pocalyptic-predictions


58 posted on 09/21/2019 9:00:13 AM PDT by GOPJ ( Daniel Okrent HELP - lowlife editors at the New York Times need YOU... they've lost their way.)
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To: Libloather

“Degrowth is a planned reduction of total energy and material use to bring the economy in line with planetary boundaries”

There are two problems at the base of that statement.

The definition of just what those boundaries are is not scientific nor is there a proven method for determining them. Just remember back to the 1970s when the same kind of people said they had convincing evidence that by the year 2000 we would be unable to feed the world and mass starvation would be increasing. Is that what happened?

Those who buy into the theory are not motivated by trying to save either the planet or humanity. Buying into the theory is a means of using the theory for political agendas, not improvement of the world or humananity.


59 posted on 09/21/2019 11:14:31 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: GOPJ

Thank you!


60 posted on 09/21/2019 12:44:22 PM PDT by moovova
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