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Heisman Trophy Winner - Eric Crouch, Nebraska.
ESPN TV | 12-8-01 | Downtown Athletic Club

Posted on 12/08/2001 3:59:22 PM PST by Dan from Michigan

There you have it.


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To: Fury
Crouch might actually be in the NFL, and do well. Team leadership qualities count for something, option quarterbacking notwithstanding. The Colorado debacle can be laid upon the Nebraska "Trent Lott" defense.

Still, Grossman deserved the trophy.

141 posted on 12/08/2001 6:27:26 PM PST by lavrenti
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To: Fury
Crouch might actually be in the NFL, and do well. Team leadership qualities count for something, option quarterbacking notwithstanding. The Colorado debacle can be laid upon the Nebraska "Trent Lott" defense.

Still, Grossman deserved the trophy.

142 posted on 12/08/2001 6:27:29 PM PST by lavrenti
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I would have voted for David Carr, but Crouch is a good winner nonetheless, a solid athlete.
143 posted on 12/08/2001 6:30:06 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: kuk77
From ESPN.COM:

"He's one of only three major college quarterbacks to run for 3,000 yards and pass for 4,000 yards in a career."

Also stated he is the first true option quarterback to win the award.

144 posted on 12/08/2001 6:30:10 PM PST by Fury
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To: lavrenti
I think Crouch will get drafted, but all bets are off on what position he will play. He says QB, but I think his arm is not pro caliber. But he is one good athlete.
145 posted on 12/08/2001 6:31:39 PM PST by Fury
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To: lwg8tr
Derrick Gibson. Soliciting

Sabastian Janikowski. Posession of a date rape drug

Chris Walker.Drunk driving

Todd Williams. Attacked ATM Machine.

Tay Coby.Drug possesion

Laveranues Coles. Grand Theft

Peter Warrick. Grand Theft

Jared Jones. Breaking and entering

Bryne Malone. Attemped murder

Shawn McCorkel. DUI 2 times

Marcus Outzen. Drunk and disorderly

Just a short list, Like your memory. Shall I continue?

146 posted on 12/08/2001 6:36:42 PM PST by Newbomb Turk
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To: Prov1322
Heisman conspiracy...threaten to sue? What in the h-ll are you talking about? Lame shots at FSU. FSU has had way more than its share of felons/losers. As they say, can't get into UF? Go to FSU...
147 posted on 12/08/2001 6:37:22 PM PST by cactmh
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To: Hillary 666
Oh yeah, old Tom Rathman and Roger Craig...a couple of degenerates, right? Want convicts? Choose one of the Florida teams. Nebraska consistently puts out quality running backs.
148 posted on 12/08/2001 6:39:59 PM PST by Osinski
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To: Fury
I agree. Potential impact player as a flanker, WR, kick returner. Back-up QB role with a Jerry Rhome-type coach guiding him.

I can see him in St. Louis or with the Titans. God help him if drafted by the Lions or the Cowboys. Maybe he needs WLAF seasoning.

149 posted on 12/08/2001 6:40:48 PM PST by lavrenti
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To: Newbomb Turk
Go get 'em!!!!
150 posted on 12/08/2001 6:41:19 PM PST by Fury
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I dunno if this has been mentioned, haven't waded through all the mudslinging, but Nebraska has no lock on actively recruiting thugs. Matter of fact, Tennessee seems to have an ongoing soap opera of miscreants, but the school and state tries their best to keep it quiet. Didn't they reextend an offer to a punk accused of molesting a girl in the dorm on his recruiting visit? After a lot of bad publicity(thanks to Neal Boortz, among others) they withdrew the scholarship offer, but have quietly reextended it, IIRC. No doubt a free calling card will be given to him also.
151 posted on 12/08/2001 6:41:54 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: kuk77
Yes you did state facts, partial ones I felt. I just tried to complete those facts.

If you are just dealing with facts pertinent to winning the Heisman, what exactly does "winning its own *division*" have to do with anything. I did not realize Crouch played defense as well.

152 posted on 12/08/2001 6:42:08 PM PST by VetoBill
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To: Newbomb Turk
How does one attack an ATM machine? ;)
153 posted on 12/08/2001 6:42:39 PM PST by Fury
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To: Osinski
Don't forget Grant Wistrom playing for St. Louis. Good defensive player.
154 posted on 12/08/2001 6:44:59 PM PST by Fury
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To: lwg8tr
Hmmm. The (big) name Michael Irvin comes to mind. What an upstanding citizen and role model. Was he from Nebraska? No, I didn't think so.
155 posted on 12/08/2001 6:46:12 PM PST by Osinski
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To: Fury
According to the police report, with a chair. He said the ATM started the altercation though.
157 posted on 12/08/2001 6:48:28 PM PST by Newbomb Turk
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To: Osinski
LSU is behind 17-16 and coming on strong. I hope they win. It would make the heads of the anti-Nebraska folks explode! ;)
158 posted on 12/08/2001 6:48:43 PM PST by Fury
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To: Fury
No only that, it would make the BCS explode. Much better.

Though I bet if LSU does win(still a quarter remaining, but they just took the lead), somehow they'll figure out a way to keep Nebraska out by .00001 points. But who do you pick? Oregon didn't look impressive, Colorado is the trendiest and allegedly the hottest, but Illinois and Maryland only have 1 loss(same as BYU, but...hahahahaha).

Nothing against you Tennessee, but we need a playoff, and a BCS meltdown certainly helps.

160 posted on 12/08/2001 6:57:41 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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