Posted on 12/12/2001 9:49:48 AM PST by mmmmmmmm....... donuts
Edited on 04/22/2004 12:31:50 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
WASHINGTON
(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...
1. "Some 60 Israelis, who federal investigators have said are part of a long-running effort to spy on American government officials."
Not true. No such investigators made no such remarks. The 60 are were held for immigration violations.
2. “The Israelis, a handful of whom are described as active Israeli military or intelligence operatives, have been detained on immigration charges or under the new Patriot Anti-Terrorism Law”
This a contradiction of the prior paragraph. Now he says that only a “handful” are “described as active Israeli military “. Note that the person doing the “describing” is never identified.
3. “There is no indication the Israelis were involved in the Sept. 11 attacks, but investigators suspect that they may have gathered intelligence about the attacks in advance and not shared it.”
Who are these “investigators”. Do they really exist? Are they Fox investigators, government, or imaginary?? Why is the government branch identified? They don't exist, that's why.
4. “A highly placed investigator told Fox News there are "tie-ins," but when asked for details flatly refused to describe them”
Again a non identified investigator (who ever it is) putting out an innuendo. Without an iota of truth or facts to back it up.
5. “But Fox News has learned that one group of Israelis spotted in North Carolina recently is suspected of keeping an apartment in California to spy on a group of Arabs who the U.S. authorities are investigating for links to terrorism”
Spotted by whom? Another rumor. If this is true how does it suggest spying on American targets?
6. “Numerous classified documents obtained by Fox News indicate that even prior to Sept. 11, as many as 140 other Israelis had been detained or arrested in a secretive and sprawling investigation into suspected espionage by Israelis in the United States”
How does FOX News get “numerous” classified documents. Is this not a scandal if true? How come that not a single media source in this country is able to corroborate these charges, and that no indictments or arrests have been recorded? This is highly suggestive of a malicious fabrication.
7. “Investigators from numerous government agencies are part of a working group that has been compiling evidence in the case since the mid-1990s. These documents detail hundreds of incidents in cities and towns across the country that investigators say quote "may well be an organized intelligence-gathering activity."”
”detail hundreds of incidents in cities and towns across the country.” Has even one been published at any time in any place. I believe not.
Investigators from ”numerous” government agencies.
Why would "numerous" agencies be involved in domestic spying. Nonsense.
”investigators say quote ” may well be an organized intelligence-gathering activity."
Well well well. Do the investigators speak in unison to FOX news so their remarks can be put within a quotation sign.
“May well” doesn’t ring like a factual statement after several years of an alleged investigation.
I can go on and on to unravel this type of Goebbel-like propaganda piece based on lies, fabrications, rumors and inuendos.
Unfortunatly, the American public that has been trained since birth to accept whatever they hear on the TV as the truth, is incapable of reading and analyzing it for themselves.
Yes dear jackbill Avis really does tries harder.
The trouble is that whenever someone goes to all that trouble then they go to the trouble of labeling the TROUBLEMAKERS as anti-semites, or skinheads or nazis. The trouble with this world is that no one takes responsibility for their own troubles.
As far as I'm concerned, 99% of all trouble is self inflicted. Now, I haven't gone to the trouble of doing a scientific study on this, that's just my opinion. My opinion has gotten me in trouble before, so maybe I'd be better off keeping my opinions to myself and not go to the trouble of writing them down here.
I'm not looking for trouble, but I don't shy away from trouble either. Someone has got to face this trouble head on and squelch it. You know what I mean? You've got to go right to the trouble-spots and stamp it out right there.
I won't trouble you any more tonight with this, I just felt that if the ADL was troubled by this then I had better be troubled by it too. I don't want to get into trouble with the ADL, becuase that could lead to REAL TROUBLE...
Can I take my tongue out of my cheek now???
IT IS AS DIFFERENT AS GOEBBLE NAZI REPORT, AND THE WASHINGTON POST. No anonymous investigators of numerous agencies. But real, named federal agencies.
Source: CNN
Published: December 14, 2001 Author: CNN
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Federal agents swept through the offices of two Islamic charity groups Friday, seizing all financial assets and records, federal law enforcement sources told CNN.
The raids, the first under the anti-terrorist Patriot Act, were conducted in Illinois and New Jersey as part of the government's effort to freeze assets of groups suspected of aiding terrorism.
The coordinated actions stem from orders issued by the Treasury Department's Office of Foreign Asset Control to freeze the organizations' assets.
Officials said Customs and IRS agents seized financial records from the Benevolence International Foundation in Newark, New Jersey. Earlier, FBI agents executed search warrants to seize records from the Global Relief Foundation near Chicago, Illinois.
A statement on the Treasury Department's Web site said all financial assets and all records of both groups were ordered blocked.
The Global Relief Foundation issued a statement Friday strongly denying any link to terrorism and saying it would fully cooperate with the investigation.
"We are in the business of helping innocent civilians and take every precaution to ensure our aid does not go to support or subsidize any nefarious activity," the statement said.
"Just as we would call the police if our collection box or computer equipment were being stolen, we would certainly alert the authorities if we had reason to believe the intended humanitarian purpose of our aid were being subverted to harm innocent lives."
The statement said it has already had to shut down its worldwide humanitarian operations.
The Patriot Act, which President Bush signed into law in October, grants sweeping new powers for intelligence-gathering and surveillance.
The additional powers include the use of much more international intelligence information and expanded wiretapping authority, and strengthens penalties for those who help terrorists and lengthens the statute of limitations for terrorist acts.
The Global Relief Organization raised more than $5 million last year for charities in Afghanistan and elsewhere in the Muslim world.
The charity complained that the raid, coming at the end of Ramadan -- the biggest period of charitable giving for Muslims -- would hurt its relief efforts.
The Global Relief Organization filed lawsuits last month against large media outlets, including ABC and the New York Times, claiming that it has been unfairly portrayed as a terror organization.
Earlier this month, President Bush said the Treasury Department moved to freeze the assets and accounts of the Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development. The government said the organization, based in Richardson, Texas, acts as a front to finance the militant wing of the Palestinian group Hamas.
Federal agents and local officers raided the foundation's Texas headquarters, seizing assets and records and executing what an FBI agent described as a "blocking order."
Sometimes that is the trouble with government, it moves so slow.
Is anyone else troubled by this? Surely I am not the only one that finds this troubling???
I've never trusted Israel. They have a hand in our pocket and a lock on our foreign policy in the Mideast.
You made a fact out of pure fantasy, and rumors. Wishful thinking on your part. No such "tie-in' is given in the story, nor one bit of evidence or indictment presented. BS.
If friends fire at you accidentally because they had no idea of who you were, it's "friendly fire".
If friends fire at you purposely with knowledge of who you are, it is an out-and-out attack.
If you don't, you're going to have a lot of trouble eating and speaking.
With a capital "T"...
Look, why don't you come right out and state that you think Fox News and its editors are Nazis?
You're implying this about everyone else who are addressing this article in a manner not to your preference.
And as someone who is pro-Israel and its right to exist, may I say it's getting downright embarrassing?
I couldn't have said it better myself. If the shoe fits wear it.
You could come right out and state you think Fox News is a Nazi-style propaganda outlet for producing this article.
Of course, you'll probably get laughed at by a majority of people on this board, but if you really believe in the force of your own convictions, that shouldn't really matter to you, right?
You're disinclined to pussyfoot around when it comes to stating your opinions of anonymous posters.
So why pussyfoot around when it comes to your opinion on Fox News?
Out with it, imp.
With a capital "T"...
It really isn't that bad seeing as how I'm used to speaking and eating with my foot in my mouth 99% of the time...
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