1 posted on
01/30/2002 5:57:14 AM PST by
Valin
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To: Valin
Well hells bells! Get out a camera and video tape them right back. Hire a private investigator and follow these people around and video tape THEM during the course of their lives.
To: Valin
Bill Sodeman, a simple man, qualified to determining what loud, "offensive" music from car stereos might be, and what rude bumper stickers are. Bill - the new arbiter of tastes and 'positive peer' pressure. Bill is watching us all.
To: Valin
So I guess it would be OK for someone to sit outside the Sodemann's house and videotape them coming and going?
To: Valin
Bill Sodemann and his screwy crew need to get their lives straightened out before they try to impress their views on others. Surely there are some worthy charities that could use extra help. On the other hand these people may have branded themselves as unusable by their silly behavior.
5 posted on
01/30/2002 6:05:39 AM PST by
FreePaul
To: Valin
Hi, Neighbor - I'd like to compliment you on the fine-diddley-ine job you're doin'
8 posted on
01/30/2002 6:10:31 AM PST by
gdani
To: Valin
Mrs. Grundy would be proud.
Bill and his blue-haired harpies should form a card club or something. Keep 'em out of everyone elses business.
To: Valin
If they'd taped in Pasadena some years ago, one of the fellows they caught would have been Richard Feynman, the Nobel-Prize-winning physicist. He had his own special table at a local strip club.
When the City Council tried to have it closed down, he testified on behalf of the club, and stated that it was "necessary to his work," and that he could not conduct his research without it. The club was allowed to remain.
--Boris
11 posted on
01/30/2002 6:20:46 AM PST by
boris
To: Valin
This videotaping people in public is something I have never understood. Everytime I see a reporter filming a crowd, I do not understand how they can use an image/audio of an individual to help sell advertisement space on/in their newspaper/radio/television station.
My image is mine, not anyone elses. If I wish to be seen on television I believe I should have to sign a waiver allowing such, or be compensated. Video tape is much different than walking around in public and being seen by others. Reporters are in business to make money. To make money they need news. If they provide interesting enough news to gather a loyal following, advertisers will buy space in that medium. Why should the public be expected to provide the raw material without compensation or the right to deny broadcasting a tape with their appearence?
16 posted on
01/30/2002 6:32:11 AM PST by
VetoBill
To: Valin
Patrons who were videotaped entering a strip club complained about invasion of privacy but were told the group, People Advocating Decency, has a legal right to tape them. And I'm sure the PATRONS have a right to sue as well.
What if the person going in is not a PATRON but someone doing building repairs or maintenance?
These people should get a life and stop trying to decide what is morality for everyone else.
17 posted on
01/30/2002 6:40:39 AM PST by
unixfox
To: Valin
Though I think he was being a self-righteous prick, I think that Mr. Sodermann was indee within his rights to do as he did. There is no law against people being jerks, right?
To: Valin
The Thought Police to the Rescue !! !!
To: Valin
In Oklahoma City, where 150 sex-oriented businesses (strip clubs, adult book/video stores, etc.) were eliminated, the rape rate declined more than 26 percent over 5 years. During that time, rape rates in the rest of the state rose more than 19 percent.
Cordially,
24 posted on
01/30/2002 7:02:28 AM PST by
Diamond
You all seem pretty sympathetic to the strip club patrons. What about the people who live in the area. Should their children be subjected to this? Would you like to live across the street from a strip club? Do you have children? Do you want your teenage daughters propositioned by the clientele as they walk home from school? Maybe they can grow up and have a career where they can gyrate around a pole and have dateless nerds and mob wanna-bes stuff bills in their g-string too.
And as for loud car stereos - That is a pet peeve of mine as well. Why does some A-hole have the right to drive down my street blasting music so loudly that I can hear it in my house, with the windows closed?
The fact is, these activities have a negative impact on the rest of us. We have the right to live our lives, and not have to put up with this stuff. Put the strip clubs far away from where people live. Turn down your stereo so that people two blocks away can't hear you coming, or buy some damned headphones. Have some consideration for others.
26 posted on
01/30/2002 7:06:02 AM PST by
LouD
To: Valin
The group wants to prevent suggestive magazines from being displayed in grocery stores, ban loud, "offensive" music from car stereos, and get rid of rude bumper stickers.The group also demanded that everyone wear clean underwear, and to prove that it is clean they suggested that it be worn on the outside.
To: Valin
Screamin' MeeMees owner Jim Halbach said Sodemann's right to videotape on public property is protected by the First Amendment, as is his right to run the juice bar. Yes to the first part. No to the second part.
Mr. Sodemann is a hero, especially considering the risk he's taking in videotaping the lost souls who go to these clubs.
To: Valin
Bird stood on the sidewalk in front of an abortion clinic for an hour tuesday afternoon to "apply positive peer presure" Police told him he was allowed to stay there...
"I just want people to think twice before they go in" Bird said.
Funny how the law doesn't apply equally in all situations.
To: Valin
A few of his customers were upset because they didn't know what Sodemann intended to do with the pictures, Halbach said. Why should they care? It should be ok with them if Sodemann publishes them on a Web site. What's the big deal if men want to look at nude juice?
Shalom.
57 posted on
01/30/2002 9:44:40 AM PST by
ArGee
To: Valin
The group wants to prevent suggestive magazines from being displayed in grocery stores, ban loud, "offensive" music from car stereos, and get rid of rude bumper stickers. Will this group of fine citizens next be telling people what to wear, when to mow their lawns, how many plastic flamingos they can have on their property, how many times today they should be taking a sh!t, etc?
To: Valin
Let your conscience be your guide, or these folks will do it for you?
82 posted on
01/30/2002 12:04:50 PM PST by
lds23
To: Valin
Shine some light on the cockroaches and watch them scatter and cry "foul". People are videotaped everytime they enter a store, but so what. They are videotaped probable inside the strip joint, but they don't cry foul there either. The fact is they don't like being brought to the light of day. Otherwise their would be no complaint. If you have nothing to hide, there is silence. Their own knowledge of right and wrong is their problem.
83 posted on
01/30/2002 12:21:10 PM PST by
LowOiL
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