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"President of the United States Wants To Grant Amnesty Up To 4 Million Illegal Aliens"
THE REAGAN INFORMATION INTERCHANGE ^ | October 29, 2000 | Senator Orrin Hatch

Posted on 03/17/2002 7:41:17 PM PST by Uncle Bill

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To: angry beaver norbert
Other reasons being this POS they call campaign finance "reform", and the shabby treatment too many Senators & Representatives give the Constitution, especially where the 2nd Amendment is concerned, letting states like The Peoples' Republik of Kalifornia totally ignore the thing. The "Bad American" letter a while back said, "if they don't leave the document alone, there's going to be trouble. I agree.
21 posted on 03/17/2002 8:17:48 PM PST by angry beaver norbert
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To: Registered; nunya bidness
Senators of Both Parties Support Permanent Extension of Section 245(i) Illegal Alien Amnesty

INS Plans Tp Free Long-Term Detaniees

Illegal Alien Onslaught: Aid flows to illegal immigrants

ILLEGAL ALIEN NOW SUSPECT IN 187 MURDERS IN U.S. AND MEXICO

22 posted on 03/17/2002 8:33:18 PM PST by Uncle Bill
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To: Uncle Bill; Askel5
Corn beef and cabbage bump.
23 posted on 03/17/2002 8:36:51 PM PST by nunya bidness
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To: Uncle Bill
This has got to be a Council on Foreign Relations mandate of some kind. In other words done deal. From Cool Hand Luke - "If that's the way the CFR wants it, that's the way the CFR get's it."
24 posted on 03/17/2002 9:50:25 PM PST by The Bolt
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To: Uncle Bill
Has anybody here really read the bill? It't not an amnesty, it's an extension to those who are here legally, but the INS doesn't have the manpower to process their extension requests, PER LAW!.

I've been one of the most outspoken, albeit, senseable opponents to illegal immigration and runaway legal immigration for years (including protests on the streets of Los Angeles), but this seems good policy to me. Locate those we can, put those we invited here into a viable system of tracking, and at the same time restrict incoming visas and border crossings. This is all happening. Anyone want to argue nothing's happened at the borders should go take a look at the hours long wait to cross.

The INS and affiliated beaurocrats have a long way to go IMHO, but this actually makes sense to me. This is NOT amnesty, it's what the INS should have been doing all along - controlling the visa situation.

25 posted on 03/17/2002 9:54:15 PM PST by A Navy Vet
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To: RickyJ
I bet you never voted for President Bush! Your slogan sounds like something from the DNC!
26 posted on 03/17/2002 9:58:37 PM PST by Lady In Blue
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To: Uncle Bill
Michael Reagan is a fine one to talk about granting amnesty for illegals when his dad,President Reagan granted amnesty to illegals back in 1986.
27 posted on 03/17/2002 10:00:13 PM PST by Lady In Blue
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To: Lady In Blue
I not only voted for him, but I campainged for him as well.

Tell me, why do you STILL support this so called "conservative" president?

28 posted on 03/17/2002 10:05:09 PM PST by RickyJ
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To: A Navy Vet
Anyone want to argue nothing's happened at the borders should go take a look at the hours long wait to cross.

You can't deal with reality can you?

Oh nevermind I get it now, you're being sarcastic, right?

29 posted on 03/17/2002 10:10:00 PM PST by RickyJ
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To: A Navy Vet
Has anybody here really read the bill? It't not an amnesty, it's an extension to those who are here legally, but the INS doesn't have the manpower to process their extension requests, PER LAW!.

Once again...

Section 245 of the Act allows an alien to apply for adjustment of status to that of a lawful permanent resident (LPR) while in the United States if certain conditions are met. The alien must have been inspected and admitted or paroled, be eligible for an immigrant visa and admissible for permanent residence, and, with some exceptions, have maintained lawful nonimmigrant status. The alien must also not have engaged in unauthorized employment. Section 245(i) of the Act allows an alien to apply to adjust status under section 245 notwithstanding the fact that he or she entered without inspection, overstayed, or worked without authorization.
LINK.

Last week's 245(i) extension was specifically about Illegals.

Letting Illegals stay = Amnesty for those Illegals.




30 posted on 03/17/2002 10:11:08 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: RickyJ
I support this great president because he has so far done exactly what he said that he would do during the campaign and this despite the fact that the DEMOCRATS ARE IN CONTROL OF THE SENATE. I'm not a fair weather friend.Why should I be when he is only in his second year?!

Some so-call conservatives make me sick! The purer than anybody else and unless others do exactly what they say,they dessert their friends.

31 posted on 03/17/2002 10:12:58 PM PST by Lady In Blue
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To: Sabertooth
My apologies, I was working on the previous section 245. Insert foot...oh well, my first mistake for the year. Bummer.

On the up side, I am correct about the increase border security (have seen it), and with last weeks INS visa "snafu" you can bet that system is going to revamped, as has been posted here.

32 posted on 03/17/2002 10:19:12 PM PST by A Navy Vet
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To: A Navy Vet
Has anybody here really read the bill? It't not an amnesty, it's an extension to those who are here legally, but the INS doesn't have the manpower to process their extension requests, PER LAW!

I'm sorry but this is wrong. This is the Republican spin and is not true. The new bill extends the amnesty created by 245.

245 created a 3 year window for illegal aliens to apply to become legal. The three years is almost up and this bill extends that amnesty for 6 more months. The Republicans don't want people to know this, because the vast majority of Americans is against giving these criminals any more time.

To understand this you have to go to the original law which clearly states that it gives amnesty to the criminals. The new bill is constructed in such a way as to obscure that.

33 posted on 03/17/2002 10:20:29 PM PST by SUSSA
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To: A Navy Vet
I am correct about the increase border security (have seen it), and with last weeks INS visa "snafu" you can bet that system is going to revamped, as has been posted here.

I'll take what I can get, but until there are significant deportations from the interior, we have a de facto Amnesty anyway.




34 posted on 03/17/2002 10:21:40 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Lady In Blue
I support this great president because he has so far done exactly what he said that he would do during the campaign...

No he hasn't. He seems to care more about giving amnesty to illegal aliens than pushing for a ban on partial-birth abortion like he promised he would do. There are many other areas where he has broken promises as well, such as making sure criminals pay for their crimes. Clinton and company are sure paying for their crimes, now aren't they?

35 posted on 03/17/2002 10:23:49 PM PST by RickyJ
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To: Sabertooth
"I'll take what I can get, but until there are significant deportations from the interior, we have a de facto Amnesty anyway."

Agreed. I'm a proponent of most deportations. However, some cases require a little humanity, but those are a small percentage.

36 posted on 03/17/2002 10:26:27 PM PST by A Navy Vet
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To: Lady In Blue
The purer than anybody else and unless others do exactly what they say,they dessert their friends.

Bush was never my "friend." I voted for him because I didn't want Gore up there. I was praying he would actually do what he promised to do since he said he was a born again Christian.

37 posted on 03/17/2002 10:30:26 PM PST by RickyJ
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To: RickyJ
I was praying he would actually do what he promised to do since he said he was a born again Christian.

Oh the irony.

38 posted on 03/17/2002 10:39:15 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Lady In Blue
Party hack, mindless drone.
39 posted on 03/17/2002 10:44:14 PM PST by dougherty
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To: dougherty
Party hack, mindless drone.

Dale Carnegie?

40 posted on 03/17/2002 10:46:59 PM PST by Texasforever
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