Posted on 03/25/2002 7:27:32 PM PST by Palladin
Excerpts from Goodbye! Good Men
Excerpt from
CHAPTER 4
The Gay Subculture
How homosexual politics discriminates against healthy, heterosexual men
"The issue was never one of my suitability for ordination. Rather it was that the gay clique had been given veto power over who got ordained."
—JOSEPH KELLENYI
former seminarian, Mundelein Seminary, Chicago, Ill.
IF THE APPLICANT IS ACCEPTED into a seminary program he is liable to encounter homosexual issues many times throughout his seminary career, sometimes in more direct ways than others. "For decades we have been hearing stories about priestly training and religious houses that would have made Boccaccio blush." These stories effectively deter many Catholic parents from encouraging a priestly vocation among their sons. It has, to be sure, deterred many young men from testing their vocations in certain dioceses.
One popular book acknowledges what the author calls a "gay subculture" in many Catholic seminaries. Written by Father Donald B. Cozzens when he was rector of St. Mary’s Seminary in Cleveland, The Changing Face of the Priesthood warns of a growing public concern that the priesthood is becoming a "gay profession." He spends considerable time addressing the issue from his perspective inside the seminary.
Cozzens states that "straight men in a predominantly or significantly gay environment commonly experience chronic destabilization, a common symptom of which is self-doubt." Compounding the challenge of studying, praying and living alongside gay seminarians, he adds, "are seminary faculties which include a disproportionate number of homosexually-oriented persons." In other words, this "gay subculture," comprised of both students and faculty at certain seminaries, deters the heterosexual man from continuing to study and prepare for the priesthood.
This is to put it mildly. How can any healthy, heterosexual seminarian expect to be properly formed and prepared for the Catholic priesthood when constantly subjected to that which is so clearly contrary to Church teaching and discipline? How many heterosexual seminarians, whether orthodox or not, have decided to leave the seminary and abandon their vocations because of the "gay subculture" they were forced to endure, because they had been propositioned, harassed or even molested? We're not talking here about the presence of a few homosexually-oriented men who conduct themselves with perfect chastity. Rather, there exists an intense and often threatening atmosphere.
According to former seminarians and recently ordained priests, the "gay subculture" is so prominent at certain seminaries that these institutions have earned nicknames such as Notre Flame (for Notre Dame Seminary in New Orleans) and Theological Closet (for Theological College at the Catholic University of America in Washington D.C.). St. Mary’s Seminary in Baltimore has earned the nickname "The Pink Palace."
Father Andrew Walter, ordained for the Diocese of Bridgeport, Connecticut in 2000, spent several semesters at the Baltimore school as a seminarian for the Diocese of Patterson, New Jersey. The problem was so bad when he was there, he explained, that "some of the students and faculty used to get dressed up in leather to go to ‘the block,’ Baltimore’s equivalent to 42nd Street in Manhattan."
Seminarians, sometimes accompanied by faculty members, would do this regularly, Walter explained. "They would meet in the foyer, and then head for the gay bars." This issue is not new, and the claim is not uncommon. In March of 2000, Father. Andrew Greeley, a well known liberal priest sociologist from Chicago, testified that seminary professors "tell their students that they’re gay and take some of them to gay bars, and gay students sleep with each other."
Walter also remembers a lecture that the Vice Rector at St. Mary’s delivered in front of at least 150 people, wherein he stated that "yes, we accept openly gay seminarians; that’s our policy," an acknowledgement that only confirmed what was already commonly known at the seminary.
Walter said he tried to explain to his bishop, Frank Rodimer, what the atmosphere of the school was with such an open acceptance and sometimes encouragement of the gay subculture: "My constant theme to the bishop was that this is not just about homosexuality; this is about an agenda in a celibate seminary. It’s something directly in conflict with the teaching of the Church. These people are promoting this conflict"...
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There may be gays and pedophiles in the Temple, but that doesn't make the money changers any better.
An important point is that the sexual predation scandal currently rocking the Church is not really about pedophilia (sex with the prepubescent, 12 and under), but it is about the homosexual seduction of under age teens by priestly "chickenhawks".
The rest of the homo priests have kept quiet about it, because they benefit as a group from the chickenhawks' "recruitment" of new victims into the gay deathstyle.
The Catholic Church in America needs to confront directly its virtual takeover by active practicing homosexuals or it is finished.
How can a majority homosexual priesthood purge itself?
Where we are going next, I can't begin to guess.
The left hates God, and those who follow him. Note that most of the information on child molestation does not point out the homosexual connection.
I would love to bring the Church back to where it should be. We can't do that if we pretend this isn't happening.
Lowering the hammer on gays in seminaries is the only way to fix this problem. Nobody has to give money to the Catholic Church, and fewer Catholics will if they see all their money going to victims of priestly pederasty.
Name one.
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