Posted on 03/25/2002 7:27:32 PM PST by Palladin
Excerpts from Goodbye! Good Men
Excerpt from
CHAPTER 4
The Gay Subculture
How homosexual politics discriminates against healthy, heterosexual men
"The issue was never one of my suitability for ordination. Rather it was that the gay clique had been given veto power over who got ordained."
JOSEPH KELLENYI
former seminarian, Mundelein Seminary, Chicago, Ill.
IF THE APPLICANT IS ACCEPTED into a seminary program he is liable to encounter homosexual issues many times throughout his seminary career, sometimes in more direct ways than others. "For decades we have been hearing stories about priestly training and religious houses that would have made Boccaccio blush." These stories effectively deter many Catholic parents from encouraging a priestly vocation among their sons. It has, to be sure, deterred many young men from testing their vocations in certain dioceses.
One popular book acknowledges what the author calls a "gay subculture" in many Catholic seminaries. Written by Father Donald B. Cozzens when he was rector of St. Marys Seminary in Cleveland, The Changing Face of the Priesthood warns of a growing public concern that the priesthood is becoming a "gay profession." He spends considerable time addressing the issue from his perspective inside the seminary.
Cozzens states that "straight men in a predominantly or significantly gay environment commonly experience chronic destabilization, a common symptom of which is self-doubt." Compounding the challenge of studying, praying and living alongside gay seminarians, he adds, "are seminary faculties which include a disproportionate number of homosexually-oriented persons." In other words, this "gay subculture," comprised of both students and faculty at certain seminaries, deters the heterosexual man from continuing to study and prepare for the priesthood.
This is to put it mildly. How can any healthy, heterosexual seminarian expect to be properly formed and prepared for the Catholic priesthood when constantly subjected to that which is so clearly contrary to Church teaching and discipline? How many heterosexual seminarians, whether orthodox or not, have decided to leave the seminary and abandon their vocations because of the "gay subculture" they were forced to endure, because they had been propositioned, harassed or even molested? We're not talking here about the presence of a few homosexually-oriented men who conduct themselves with perfect chastity. Rather, there exists an intense and often threatening atmosphere.
According to former seminarians and recently ordained priests, the "gay subculture" is so prominent at certain seminaries that these institutions have earned nicknames such as Notre Flame (for Notre Dame Seminary in New Orleans) and Theological Closet (for Theological College at the Catholic University of America in Washington D.C.). St. Marys Seminary in Baltimore has earned the nickname "The Pink Palace."
Father Andrew Walter, ordained for the Diocese of Bridgeport, Connecticut in 2000, spent several semesters at the Baltimore school as a seminarian for the Diocese of Patterson, New Jersey. The problem was so bad when he was there, he explained, that "some of the students and faculty used to get dressed up in leather to go to the block, Baltimores equivalent to 42nd Street in Manhattan."
Seminarians, sometimes accompanied by faculty members, would do this regularly, Walter explained. "They would meet in the foyer, and then head for the gay bars." This issue is not new, and the claim is not uncommon. In March of 2000, Father. Andrew Greeley, a well known liberal priest sociologist from Chicago, testified that seminary professors "tell their students that theyre gay and take some of them to gay bars, and gay students sleep with each other."
Walter also remembers a lecture that the Vice Rector at St. Marys delivered in front of at least 150 people, wherein he stated that "yes, we accept openly gay seminarians; thats our policy," an acknowledgement that only confirmed what was already commonly known at the seminary.
Walter said he tried to explain to his bishop, Frank Rodimer, what the atmosphere of the school was with such an open acceptance and sometimes encouragement of the gay subculture: "My constant theme to the bishop was that this is not just about homosexuality; this is about an agenda in a celibate seminary. Its something directly in conflict with the teaching of the Church. These people are promoting this conflict"...
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How Catholic Seminaries Turned Away Two Generations of Vocations From the Priesthood
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I can only surmise that "gay lib" crept in with the rest of the "liberation theology". And those chickens have indeed come home to roost.
Section XII. The Triumph of Humility.
To the souls which are faithful to Him, God promises a glorious victory over the powers of the world and of hell.
If the divine action is hidden here below under the appearance of weakness, it is in order to increase the merit of souls which are faithful to it; but its triumph is none the less certain.
The history of the world from the beginning is but the history of the struggle between the powers of the world, and of hell, against the souls which are humbly devoted to the divine action. In this struggle all the advantage seems to be on the side of pride, yet the victory always remains with humility. The image of the world is always presented to our eyes as a statue of gold, brass, iron, and clay. This mystery of iniquity, shown in a dream to Nabuchodonosor, is nothing but a confused medley of all the actions, interior and exterior, of the children of darkness. This is also typified by the beast coming out of the pit to make war, from the beginning of time, against the interior and spiritual life of man. All that takes place in our days in the consequence of this war. Monster follows monster out of the pit, which swallows, and vomits them forth again amidst incessant clouds of smoke. The combat between St. Michael and Lucifer, that began in Heaven, still continues. The heart of this once magnificent angel, has become, through envy, an inexhaustible abyss of every kind of evil. He made angel revolt against angel in Heaven, and from the creation of the world his whole energy is exerted to make more criminals among men to fill the ranks of those who have been swallowed up in the pit. Lucifer is the chief of those who refuse obedience to the Almighty. This mystery of iniquity is the very inversion of the order of God; it is the order, or rather, the disorder of the devil.
This disorder is a mystery because, under a false appearance of good, it hides irremediable and infinite evil. Every wicked man, who, from the time of Cain, up to the present moment, has
Those who practise iniquity imagine themselves invincible. O God! who can resist You? If a single soul has the whole world and all hell against it, it need have no fear if, by abandonment, it takes its stand on the side of God and His order.
The monstrous spectacle of wickedness armed with so much power, the head of gold, the body of silver, brass, and iron, is nothing more than the image of clay; a small stone cast at it will scatter it to the four winds of Heaven.
How wonderfully has the Holy Spirit illustrated the centuries of the world! So many startling revelations! so many renowned heroes following each other like so many brilliant stars! So many wonderful events!
All this is like the dream of Nabuchodonosor, forgotten on awaking, however terrible the impression it made at the time.
All these monsters only come into the world to exercise the courage of the children of God, and if these are well trained, God gives them the pleasure of slaying the monsters, and sends fresh athletes into the arena.
And this life is a spectacle to angels, causing continual joy in Heaven, work for saints on earth, and confusion to the devils in hell.
So all that is opposed to the order of God renders it only the more to be adored. All workers of iniquity are slaves of justice, and the divine action builds the heavenly Jerusalem on the ruins of Babylon.
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My faith is grounded in the Scriptures rather than the supposed virtue of men. These times are precisely described in the Bible. We are living in the Great Apostasy, when the visible church is ruled by ex-believers (anti-Christians). "Though there be those that loathe Her, false sons within the pale..."
I hope that all the clergy predators and their enablers find justice in this world. They surely will in the age to come.
Thanks for posting this.
I've been trying to give a link bump to Goodbye! Good Men on every Church scandal thread here.
The book comes out in two weeks. For those interested in this subject, and certainly for those active in the Church, I recommend this as indispensable reading.
It's disturbing reading.
Thank you, I just could not remember the chapter and verse. I used to quote that to my x-wife very often. Perhaps thats why she is my x.
YYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
/fist-pumping gesture of triumph>
Now, they don't cotton to much ceremony; no fancy robes, no choirs or organs or rock bands, but you get a church that's filled with the Spirit and love of the Lord and you don't need all of that.
It is true that the Church has many powerful external enemies. But I am afraid that the current crisis has its roots in the evil hearts of the enemy within.
"Happy Cesar Chavez Weekend!" (That's the official Kali holiday now, I kid you not.)
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